Foivos 64 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/09/12/does-germany-really-owe-greece-a-etrillion-in-war-reparations-probably-not-no/ You're actimg like a Britney stan :skull: pulling over 70 year old receipts. Yes Forbes yes. My great grandmother died from what you call 70 year old receipts so you better stop talking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Then they'll have to leave the Eurozone and might also become bankrupt. If you can't pay back monry you loaned you're bankrupt. If they leave the Eurozone (for the better, their culture of corruption and overspending doesn't fit with ours) they could devalue their currency but they could also get into hyper inflation. Their only way oit is basically going on with the cuts. Their debt to gdp can be lowered by a bigger gdp, which was already happening. They might be able to get lower interest rates and payback date pushbacks, but the Eurozone countries sure as hell won't let Greece do what they want to do right now. okay, I understand, thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,150 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 well Tsipras is less and less radical from day to day... the discusion will be hard sometimes in order to satisfy people who voted for him but at the end Greece will stay in the eurozone and compromise will be the solution... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yes Forbes yes. My great grandmother died from what you call 70 year old receipts so you better stop talking. And what do I have to do with things in the past? Like seriously what? Why do I need to spend my money to a country which has no idea to deal with it? Why do I need to give my money away because of your egoistical view? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Buffay 73 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Greece did that thousands of years ago, today greeks have nothing to do with it. Way to judge a whole civilization, put them all in the same basket and judge them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foivos 64 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 well Tsipras is less and less radical from day to day... the discusion will be hard sometimes in order to satisfy people who voted for him but at the end Greece will stay in the eurozone and compromise will be the solution... Yes, no one says that Greece must not pay their debt BUT Europe cannot expect from people to live like animals earining 300 euros a month in order to pay their debt. A solution must and will be found. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Way to judge a whole civilization, put them all in the same basket and judge them But it's true though. Maybe modern greeks are all immortal and live thousands of years. But hell, don't rely on things that happened in the past. You have nothing to do with it. Like modern Brits have nothing to do with the British empire or Germans with the first,second or third empire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foivos 64 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 And what do I have to do with things in the past? Like seriously what? Why do I need to spend my money to a country which has no idea to deal with it? Why do I need to give my money away because of your egoistical view? Of course I am not saying that you should not take your money back. But Germany cannot oblige Greek people to live under that austerity just because the past governments have been incapable of dealing with the loans. Trust me, I like German way of living more, but at this point we have to find the best solution possible and THEN think about how to change the way of thinking of people of the South Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,150 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Yes, no one says that Greece must not pay their debt BUT Europe cannot expect from people to live like animals earining 300 euros a month in order to pay their debt. A solution must and will be found. I understand the point of greek people and i have emphaty for them but there must be fiscal resposibility and Greece was the worse at it... also Tsipras know as well as his cabinet that leaving the euro as the curreny would be equal to suicide for Greece as a country...no investments etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foivos 64 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 But it's true though. Maybe modern greeks are all immortal and live thousands of years. But hell, don't rely on things that happened in the past. You have nothing to do with it. Like modern Brits have nothing to do with the British empire or Germans with the first,second or third empire. No, but you cannot judge a whole nation. In each and every country there are GOOD and BAD people. Generalizing everything is the worst think one can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
i medici 1,746 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Then Germany better pay back every single penny from the war r eparations too. Treaty of Versailles :madge: go back to history class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foivos 64 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I understand the poting of greek people and i have emphaty for them but there must be fiscal resposibility and Greece was the worse at it... also Tsipras know as well as his cabinet that leaving the euro as the curreny would be equal to suicide for Greece as a country...no investments etc No one wants to leave Eurozone. Its just a negotiation card that Tsipras must not play. Greece will not go bankrupt because Europe and the greek people will not let it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 Of course I am not saying that you should not take your money back. But Germany cannot oblige Greek people to live under that austerity just because the past governments have been incapable of dealing with the loans. Trust me, I like German way of living more, but at this point we have to find the best solution possible and THEN think about how to change the way of thinking of people of the South But it won't help insulting Germany all the time like Syrzia doing often. It will only lead to anger on both sides. But Germans still have sympathy for Greece somehow. How do expect a good solution with acting like a teenage girl ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoFameMonster 1,592 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 If you mean Greece, the only countries you could drag with you is Spain and maybe Italy. The most northern and eastern countries are on Germanys side. Spain is better now, italy is still trying but for the people who invented math, Greece, My gosh get a grip. Their arrogance and lassie fair life style fuked them up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 No, but you cannot judge a whole nation. In each and every country there are GOOD and BAD people. Generalizing everything is the worst think one can do. Show me where I generalized, please. :madge: Saying that modern Greece has nothing to do with ancient Greece is more than right No modern country is like the country in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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