Tommy Monster 864 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Just so you know what´s going on in here, I´m so ashamed to be Slovak :( BILLIONS of euros, dollars, pounds, kroner and other Western currencies have been spent over the past two decades trying to develop civil society in post-communist Central and Eastern Europe, much of it without success. But a forthcoming referendum in Slovakia shows that in some places citizens are capable of organising in pursuit of political goalsâ€â€albeit ones not typically found on the liberal agendas of international non-governmental organisations. In just five months, the grassroots Alliance for Family (AZR) has collected more than 400,000 signatures (about 8% of the population) on a petition to restrict the family rights of gays. The petition calls for a referendum aimed at tightening the legal definition of the family and banning same-s-x couples from adopting children. President Andrej Kiska has scheduled the referendum for February 7th. Last year, the nominally leftist governing Smer party pushed through a constitutional ban on gay marriage, but the AZR says it does not go far enough to guarantee the sanctity of families and protect children. “For us the rights of children are more important than the rights of adults,†says Anton ChromÃk, an attorney and one of the AZR’s leaders. Social conservatism is typical in much of the region. Poland still bans almost all abortions, and 65% of Croatians voted to outlaw gay marriage in 2013. But organic political movements such as AZR are more unusual. The referendum the group has pushed through will pose three separate questions: Do you agree that only a bond between one man and one woman can be called marriage? Do you agree that same-s-x couples or groups should not be allowed to adopt and raise children? Do you agree that schools cannot require children to participate in education pertaining to s-xual behaviour or euthanasia if their parents don’t agree? Full article: http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21637820-genuine-grassroots-democratic-movement-deny-rights-same-s-x-families-uncivil-society?fsrc=scn%2Ffb%2Fte%2Fbl%2Fed%2Funcivilsociety Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Minority rights shouldn't be decided in referenda by the majority. Utterly humiliating and disrespectful to minority communities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 sad world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORE COWBELL 26 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 In order to have people that don't have anything against homos-xuality, you need assholes that do. Just like there can't be red without blue. Don't be ashamed, it happens everywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honza 2,194 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Well yeah, it's not like gay couples can get married or adopt children here in Czech republic either :( That's partially also why I'm moving to the UK (hopefully) as soon as I finish high school Come along with me and the butterflies and bees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,767 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Do you agree that schools cannot require children to participate in education pertaining to s-xual behaviour or euthanasia if their parents don’t agree? By s-xual behaviour do they mean simply educating them about condoms, contraceptives, basic s-x ed? They teach about euthanasia at these schools? Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Reading the questions the fact that the questions are written in the negative (do you agree that ONLY, should NOT, CANNOT) just makes it easier to say yes, especially among an anti-gay population Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Minority rights shouldn't be decided in referenda by the majority. Utterly humiliating and disrespectful to minority communities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 the last question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth 90 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Minority rights shouldn't be decided in referenda by the majority. Utterly humiliating and disrespectful to minority communities. if it's democracy then everything should be decided by the majority... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdreams 1,529 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 F**king ridiculous how this can happen Haters gonna need more than a flashlight for my shade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfSpain 10,010 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I can't believe these people are part of the EU. Ashamed tbh. Not talking of Slovakia of course, but these animals. http://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/227246-ceremony-gagas-videography-megarate/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Buffay 73 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Slay Slovakia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 if it's democracy then everything should be decided by the majority... That's a direct democracy, and only Switzerland (kinda) has that. The only direct democracy that was successful (or the only at all) was the ancient Greek democracy in Athens, where about 10000 people voted every week. Because of political stability, economic reforms and such we need an indirect democracy, where the politicians can still agree with something if it's truly needed (economizations, reforms, etc.). Populism ruins a country. Next to that, democracy also means protection of the individual, and that includes the equality of homos-xuals in society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 if it's democracy then everything should be decided by the majority... That's some twisted logic there. How can minority rights be defended if the majority are against them? Utterly ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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