Economy 52,953 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/12/21/opec-oil-price-gamble-fracking-us-energy-budget-revenue-column/20738305/ The a--lysis is that Saudi Arabias and OPEC using temnporary low prices to squeeze out the energy boom in North America is doomed to fail First of all, most US frackers can still make a profit at $50 to $60 a barrel. Only smaller less efficient companies, or more difficult shale formations require $70 to $80+ This means US frackers wont go out of business unless prices drop below $50/barrel for quite some time. And most OPEC members require $100/barrel or more to balance their budgets so its unlikely they can last long enough to beat out US frackers As for Canadian oil sand companies, as expensive as oil sands operations are, they are a long term project. Once an field is developed it will provide oil for up to a decade which means 1 or 2 years of low prices is a small percentage of its long-term average selling cost per field. Also Canandian oil companies have lots of cash reserves they can tap into Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild 1,296 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPisaChoice 946 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 North American oil companies can thrive under really hard economic conditions, it's OPEC game to lose really. BTW I love your political threads! It adds a lot of interesting comversation to the site! Hands up to the sky 🌧 I’ll be your galaxy 🌌 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,953 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 North American oil companies can thrive under really hard economic conditions, it's OPEC game to lose really. BTW I love your political threads! It adds a lot of interesting comversation to the site! Here in Canada few companies are cancelling projects... As expensive as it is to develop oil sands, once an area is developed it will give out oil for up to 10 years. That means the average earnings of the fields throughout their life span wont be affected much even if the prices remain low for up to 2 years The US shale oil is different. Each field lasts a lot less time and requires constant investment to maintain production... But its average costs per barrel have dropped with improved technology OPEC cant succeed unless they keep these low prices persistent for some time. But they will kill their oil dependent economies/budgets in the process And if they cut production then they loose market share. They are screwed either way :haha: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraLove 1,281 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Slay. I'm loving the nearly two dollar a gallon price that I'm getting in the U.S. right now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Slay. I'm loving the nearly two dollar a gallon price that I'm getting in the U.S. right now! In my country you get 3,8x less for the same price because of environmental taxes and stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraLove 1,281 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 In my country you get 3,8x less for the same price because of environmental taxes and stuff Is that because of the currency exchange between our countries or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Is that because of the currency exchange between our countries or what? It's exported from Russia or an Arab country usually, and there's many taxes (excise duty) on oil to limit CO2 emission. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,953 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 Is that because of the currency exchange between our countries or what?ummm obvioisly hes converting to US dollars. He had said taxes Gasoline is expensive in Europe. I know here in Canada gasoline was about $1.20 per litre before the recent fall in prices. If you comvert to gallons, gasoline is more expensive in Canada than the US.... But in portugal (my background) it was nearly $2 a gallon which is almost double what it is here in Canada. So we cant complain :emma: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,953 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 It's exported from Russia or an Arab country usually, and there's many taxes (excise duty) on oil to limit CO2 emission.once environmentalists get out of the way and finally let us build a pipeline to the pacific coast... U should buy from Canada. Were more friendly and stable than Russia or middle east :haha: Plus were already the worlds 5th largest producer, and we have the worlds 3rd largest reserves :gaga: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo 327 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I am loving prices rn. Lowest i've seen them since I was a child. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 From the sales perspective, the U.S. buys the most by far. So hi or low, some part of the U.S. will benefit? like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,953 Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 From the sales perspective, the U.S. buys the most by far. So hi or low, some part of the U.S. will benefit? The US is still a net importer of oil and the consumer and manufacturing sector are still much larger in the US than the energy sector so these low oil prices will be of net benefit to the US as a whole Here in Canada energy makes up a much bigger part of the economy and we export more oil than we import... and they believe this will be a net negative for Canada Its expected to shave off 1% to 2% growth in Canada in 2015, however when you factor in the positives for the consumer, manufacturing as well as a weaker currency that comes from low oil prices, the real negative impact on a net basis they estimate will only be 0.25% to 0.5% with Ontario and Quebec which have the most manufacturing getting most of the positive impact But for the USA, i think low oil prices will do more good than bad over-all. Unless your Texas or North Dakota Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien 16 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 That's such great news, thank you for this! :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 The US is still a net importer of oil and the consumer and manufacturing sector are still much larger in the US than the energy sector so these low oil prices will be of net benefit to the US as a whole Here in Canada energy makes up a much bigger part of the economy and we export more oil than we import... and they believe this will be a net negative for Canada Its expected to shave off 1% to 2% growth in Canada in 2015, however when you factor in the positives for the consumer, manufacturing as well as a weaker currency that comes from low oil prices, the real negative impact on a net basis they estimate will only be 0.25% to 0.5% with Ontario and Quebec which have the most manufacturing getting most of the positive impact But for the USA, i think low oil prices will do more good than bad over-all. Unless your Texas or North Dakota texas has a diversified economy, agriculture, manufacturing and energy.. Lower oil will spread the wealth more evenly across the spectrum where as hi oil benefited energy and its supporting factions .... North Dakota is booming from the 'construction' of the oil wells .. Once that slows down , so will that region.... The oil itself doesn't really benefit anyone besides the oil companies ... Lower demand will reduced interest in new construction projects however thereby slowing that segment. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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