Admin 24,441 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 What do you mean exactly? If Nicki makes a pop record it should go into the pop category. I'm failing to see your point on this?Azealia said something like "Put Iggy in the pop category, put her with Katy Perry or Lady Gaga" JUST because she's white.Fancy? The commercialized, pop take of her song Leave It featuring an up and upcoming pop artist? Mmmm very "hip-hop"How is it different from, say, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fggfo6R5YbY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inuborg 4,136 Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 Azealia said something like "Put Iggy in the pop category, put her with Katy Perry or Lady Gaga" JUST because she's white. How is it different from, say, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fggfo6R5YbY She never said it was just because she is white I root for you. I love you. You, you, you, you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 533 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 i don't have time right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Azealia said something like "Put Iggy in the pop category, put her with Katy Perry or Lady Gaga" JUST because she's white. That's such a brutally wrong misinterpretation of what she said. Not because she's white, because her music isn't hip-hop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 And Iggy is only a thing because is doing the same thing as hundreds of black southern rapper but she's pretty and white and can appeal to pop. No, Ms Banks could have done the same if she hooked up with Charli, Ariana, Rita Ora, and the right producers. Nicki got big the same way - working with will.i.am, Rihanna, and various white pop stars. 25 years of history prove that white skin is no help, and probably a barrier, for whites trying to be rappers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Azealia said something like "Put Iggy in the pop category, put her with Katy Perry or Lady Gaga" JUST because she's white. PLEASE link me to where she said that She was talking about genres, not skin colour at that moment in conversation. How is it different from, say, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fggfo6R5YbY And what's that nominated for, or is it not? Plus Nicki rapping about her relationships is far more hip-hop than Iggy basically attempting to summarise various rap stereotypes covered in pop hooks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Oh, it's brutal to watch her cry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 PLEASE link me to where she said that She didn't, that's what I'm assuming. Do you think she would be saying that if that was Nicki's song? And what's that nominated for, or is it not? Why does it matter? It could've been easily nominated if it were a hit and no one would be saying that it's not hip-hop... guess why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inuborg 4,136 Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 NOT TO MENTION, Iggy thought it was just peachy to call herself a run away slave master Oh, it's brutal to watch her cry.I know :( I root for you. I love you. You, you, you, you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hip-Hop and Pop mix and mingle all of the time which makes the Iggy/Nicki situation even more difficult. A Hip-Hop song can be Pop, a pop song can be hip-hop. It seems like a lot of people think that rapping/hip-hop is equivalent to black culture. So it's all very confusing. Is Mac Miller hip-hop or pop? Is Iggy hip-hop or pop? Is Nicki hip-hop or pop? Is Macklemore hip-hop or pop? Why do we as humans feel the need to segregate/seperate/categorize everything? It's something to think about for sure and I have no answers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 She didn't, that's what I'm assuming. Do you think she would be saying that if that was Nicki's song? Why does it matter? It could've been easily nominated if it were a hit and no one would be saying that it's not hip-hop... guess why? This is cracking me up because you're completely missing the fact that the guy who is talking about this is the same guy who called out Nicki over Starships because it wasn't hip-hop and he's now saying he should've done the same over Fancy, because it isn't hip-hop either, but he never thought it would get big and be framed as the "rap" song of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 She didn't, that's what I'm assuming. Do you think she would be saying that if that was Nicki's song? Why does it matter? It could've been easily nominated if it were a hit and no one would be saying that it's not hip-hop... guess why? Okay I'm done, you're not even taking in what she's saying or you haven't even bothered to watch the whole interview. She talks about the media which happily ran with the headlines - "HIP-HOP IS WHITE" ....... Just think to yourself for a moment how wrong that is. Most of yours, Craig's and various other's views on this are "Oh rap is for everyone, not just black people boo" ... The media is white washing music and now they're doing the same to rap, one of the last genres where someone who wasn't white could excel in without being white but now they're throwing out Nicki (who clearly has an issue with this too) and other talanted black rappers for a white girl who stereotypes them, believes she is there master and believes she has the right to use a slur they would have all heard used against them? It's just wrong. I'm f*cking white and I can see how messed up this is. I would love for everything to be a level playing field no matter what you're skin colour is but it's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Damn that was an intense watch. I didn't expect to see her cry like that but it was kind of refreshing to see her with emotion instead of the angry girl we see on Twitter... she really cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,772 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hip-Hop and Pop mix and mingle all of the time which makes the Iggy/Nicki situation even more difficult. A Hip-Hop song can be Pop, a pop song can be hip-hop. It seems like a lot of people think that rapping/hip-hop is equivalent to black culture. So it's all very confusing. Is Mac Miller hip-hop or pop? Is Iggy hip-hop or pop? Is Nicki hip-hop or pop? Is Macklemore hip-hop or pop? Why do we as humans feel the need to segregate/seperate/categorize everything? It's something to think about for sure and I have no answers. good question, it's funny Hiphop/Soul/R&B/RockNRoll&Blues all came from the black community, these things have become so intermingled with different cultures, they feel its not their own anymore. It's something the black community identifies with as their own culture. Why? because they were expression forms of music/art/etc during times when skintone was a bigger issue in the world then it is now (however it still plays a big part these days, underlying racism, stereotyping, etc), a lot of the black community sees their last bit of "black culture" smudging out into the mainstream....it doesn't feel genuine anymore/or a genuine expression form of music, but more like a "facade" to be cool. I have some of friends in the urban community, and they feel exactly like Azealia does when I ask them about this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SissyFromSpace 20,883 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 what did she say about iggy Barbie elitist - Weaboo - Sissy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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