Danny Boy 0 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I can't believe this has happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I personally don't spend a lot of time thinking about the whole thing. You're the one who quoted me, so how was i starting drama? I said my own take on a situation. Besides, I thought performing born this way with express yourself was a really cool move on madonnas part anyway. I just thought that the illuminati track was really stupid, and using GaGa's name was more for the headline than for artistic purposes. You could've just let me have my comment and think your own opinions of me, but instead you quoted me and started drama, then said that I was living for the drama. Don't twist it girlfriend. You came into this thread only to talk about the Gaga reference in "Illuminati"... As if that was the only thing worth mentioning. So yeah, you were starting drama. By reducing it to Madonna mentioning Gaga for (according to you) "publicity". While she was just name dropping everyone who's supposedly in the illuminati. Including Queen Elizabeth. Is she also offending the monarchy and using her name to rile up the Queen's fanbase? Have several seats. I also took advantage of your post to educate some queens in here who don't have a clue about the Gaga/Madonna mess that wasn't even a feud between them rather than between their teams, Perez and the fanbases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissmy7 106 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 can someone pm the link please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Don't twist it girlfriend. You came into this thread only to talk about the Gaga reference in "Illuminati"... As if that was the only thing worth mentioning. So yeah, you were starting drama. By reducing it to Madonna mentioning Gaga for (according to you) "publicity". While she was just name dropping everyone who's supposedly in the illuminati. Including Queen Elizabeth. Is she also offending the monarchy and using her name to rile up the Queen's fanbase? Have several seats. I also took advantage of your post to educate some queens in here who don't have a clue about the Gaga/Madonna mess that wasn't even a feud between them rather than between their teams, Perez and the fanbases. Well my favorite singer Lily Allen pulled a similar move with Sheezus. I didn't say it was about riling up a fanbase, I said it was to get a headline. That song Illuminati (it's the only song I had heard from the album when I posted my comment) is made for the headlines.Yes it is about the people rumored in it, I never denied that, but it also serves a second purpose. That song is for the headline "Madonna name drops Kanye, Elizabeth, Gaga, etc. in new song about hollywood and the Illuminati." Anything that involves Gaga AND Madonna is instant click bait and will be used by certain media outlets as such. That's what I was saying. And I'm not twisting it, I didn't go on a Madonna fan site saying what I said. I didn't quote anybody to say what I said. There was a thread with Gaga is mentioned in the title and I commented with what my take was on it. That's not me looking for drama, that's me giving an opinion. Then you quoted my one or two sentences with more than a paragraph, but then once I answer you you tell me that I was looking for drama. I get that you used my post for a larger purpose as well but don't try and pin an argument on me that I didn't even instigate. You could've easily ignored what I had to say or made the post you made about people in general. But you didn't. I don't ever mind people disagreeing with me, I just don't like being told I'm a drama queen simply because I gave an opinion and someone else decided to start an argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contra 145 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 last line of Heartbreak City >>>>>>>> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Can someone pm me a link, I love the album cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Well my favorite singer Lily Allen pulled a similar move with Sheezus. I didn't say it was about riling up a fanbase, I said it was to get a headline. That song Illuminati (it's the only song I had heard from the album when I posted my comment) is made for the headlines.Yes it is about the people rumored in it, I never denied that, but it also serves a second purpose. That song is for the headline "Madonna name drops Kanye, Elizabeth, Gaga, etc. in new song about hollywood and the Illuminati." Anything that involves Gaga AND Madonna is instant click bait and will be used by certain media outlets as such. That's what I was saying. And I'm not twisting it, I didn't go on a Madonna fan site saying what I said. I didn't quote anybody to say what I said. There was a thread with Gaga is mentioned in the title and I commented with what my take was on it. That's not me looking for drama, that's me giving an opinion. Then you quoted my one or two sentences with more than a paragraph, but then once I answer you you tell me that I was looking for drama. I get that you used my post for a larger purpose as well but don't try and pin an argument on me that I didn't even instigate. You could've easily ignored what I had to say or made the post you made about people in general. But you didn't. I don't ever mind people disagreeing with me, I just don't like being told I'm a drama queen simply because I gave an opinion and someone else decided to start an argument. People make a headline out of new Madonna songs anyway... Shouldn't artists be able to mention each other if it serves the song purpose? The clickbait attitude is what made the Madonna/Gaga feud (or any feud between artists in general) the mess that it is today. That's the sort of attitude both Gaga and Madonna don't like. So once again: #LivingForLove #StopTheDramaPlayTheMusic Looking forward to this Madonna album and loving what I hear right now from the demos. And now I'm going to decorate my christmas tree while listening to Cheek To Cheek. Because I can love both ladies no matter what anyone says (not referring to you). Y'all need Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunino 1,475 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 listening to it now. but in which song she talks about gaga? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 People make a headline out of new Madonna songs anyway... Shouldn't artists be able to mention each other if it serves the song purpose? The clickbait attitude is what made the Madonna/Gaga feud (or any feud between artists in general) the mess that it is today. That's the sort of attitude both Gaga and Madonna don't like. So once again: #LivingForLove #StopTheDramaPlayTheMusic Looking forward to this Madonna album and loving what I hear right now from the demos. And now I'm going to decorate my christmas tree while listening to Cheek To Cheek. Because I can love both ladies no matter what anyone says (not referring to you). Y'all need Jesus. Much kinder post, thank you! I really do love the Express yourself Born this way mash up, but I can't say I'm the biggest Madonna fan. Have a nice day <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 41,730 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Before the "reductive" comment happened, she showed support for Gaga. She went to the Fame Ball, when a lot of people were still sleeping on Gaga, including most Madonna-hating Little Monsters on here. This was all before Bad Romance, before Gaga exploded and became a household name. After a quick hello backstage at the Fame Ball, Madonna invited Gaga to her managers birthday party in 2009 as well. Gaga accepted and was rubbing shoulders with Madonna before everything else. Then Madonna and Gaga at SNL happened late 2009. Things were fine, Madonna has always shown support for her popculture "daughters". See Britney, Kylie ... Then Gaga did Alejandro with longtime Madonna director and friend Steven Klein. He had never worked on music videos before, besides his many projects with Madonna. It was Gaga's boyfriend and creative director at the time, Matthew Williams (aka Dada) who pushed Gaga to use Klein for Alejandro. Madonna stayed mute on the entire situation, even when it was clear Gaga's team was keen on making Alejandro a Madonna inspired video. The gun bra, the Vogueing scene, Klein being the director... Educate yourself. When Born This Way happened Madonna stayed mute as well. Until every single interview in support of MDNA/Superbowl featured questions about Gaga. Madonna was slightly annoyed but was never "angry" with Gaga. Using Born This Way on stage was funny and correct in it's place... Quick and done on tour. Not an emotional breakdown on a radiostation like Gaga did with the Perez/Madonna thing on Howard Stern. Gaga seems to be more upset with Perez constantly mentioning Madonna rather than Madonna herself. Madonna invited Gaga on stage at the MDNA tour to perform the Express Yourself/Born This Way mash up at Yankee Stadium in NYC. Gaga declined. Even when "dissing" Gaga, Madonna always mentioned how talented Gaga was/is, how she reminds her of her younger eighties self. The only ones who blew it up are drama queens like you and other online queens, including Perez. Madonna doesn't give a f*ck about the Gaga feud. Queens like you however, live for it, while you should be #LivingForLove #StopTheDramaPlayTheMusic "Rat Boy's a nasty, trashy, sleazy, classless"- River Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 listening to it now. but in which song she talks about gaga? Mentioned 5646544651697986x times already. The song titled "Illuminati". She name drops Gaga, Beyonce, Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Oprah, Rihanna, Kanye, Obama, Bieber, LeBron James and others. She's just talking about the supposed existence of the Illuminati. Not "dissing" Gaga at all. She talks about "the media who's leading us on", "it's time to turn the darkness into something, let the fire burn, while the music is bumping". And it's a demo. #Educating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunino 1,475 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Thank you :) Mentioned 5646544651697986x times already. The song titled "Illuminati". She name drops Gaga, Beyonce, Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Oprah, Rihanna, Kanye, Obama, Bieber, LeBron James and others. She's just talking about the supposed existence of the Illuminati. Not "dissing" Gaga at all. She talks about "the media who's leading us on", "it's time to turn the darkness into something, let the fire burn, while the music is bumping". And it's a demo. #Educating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
That J 12,166 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I need this album. I'm thirsty and can't lie. Someone hook me up please ;) Before the "reductive" comment happened, she showed support for Gaga. She went to the Fame Ball, when a lot of people were still sleeping on Gaga, including most Madonna-hating Little Monsters on here. This was all before Bad Romance, before Gaga exploded and became a household name. After a quick hello backstage at the Fame Ball, Madonna invited Gaga to her managers birthday party in 2009 as well. Gaga accepted and was rubbing shoulders with Madonna before everything else. Then Madonna and Gaga at SNL happened late 2009. Things were fine, Madonna has always shown support for her popculture "daughters". See Britney, Kylie ... Then Gaga did Alejandro with longtime Madonna director and friend Steven Klein. He had never worked on music videos before, besides his many projects with Madonna. It was Gaga's boyfriend and creative director at the time, Matthew Williams (aka Dada) who pushed Gaga to use Klein for Alejandro. Madonna stayed mute on the entire situation, even when it was clear Gaga's team was keen on making Alejandro a Madonna inspired video. The gun bra, the Vogueing scene, Klein being the director... Educate yourself. When Born This Way happened Madonna stayed mute as well. Until every single interview in support of MDNA/Superbowl featured questions about Gaga. Madonna was slightly annoyed but was never "angry" with Gaga. Using Born This Way on stage was funny and correct in it's place... Quick and done on tour. Not an emotional breakdown on a radiostation like Gaga did with the Perez/Madonna thing on Howard Stern. Gaga seems to be more upset with Perez constantly mentioning Madonna rather than Madonna herself. Madonna invited Gaga on stage at the MDNA tour to perform the Express Yourself/Born This Way mash up at Yankee Stadium in NYC. Gaga declined. Even when "dissing" Gaga, Madonna always mentioned how talented Gaga was/is, how she reminds her of her younger eighties self. The only ones who blew it up are drama queens like you and other online queens, including Perez. Madonna doesn't give a f*ck about the Gaga feud. Queens like you however, live for it, while you should be #LivingForLove #StopTheDramaPlayTheMusic Thank you thank you thank you!!! Xoxo. Best post ever. The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swakby 4,100 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 "I wanna dedicate this song to Lady Gaga.. I love her... I do... Imitation is the highest form of flattery" yeah, che doesn't give a damn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappy 302 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I really like: Bitch I'm Madonna (Sophie's production and the screamo parts) Unapologetic Bitch Heartbreak City Living for Love Messiah Rebel Heart and Wash All Over Me are ok... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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