Cher 15 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If someone pulls a gun on you, you shoot to kill. If someone is able to overpower you and/or they have a weapon you shoot to kill. Why are mass school shooters taken into custody alive? Why weren't the cops body cams/dash cams turned on? Why weren't they wearing their name badges? Why don't they use their tazers? Why didn't they call paramedics as his body lay alive for half an hour before he died? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Why are mass school shooters taken into custody alive? SUCH an annoying argument. Because they surrender themselves. If they suddenly pulled a gun on a cop from 5 feet away they'd be full of holes. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Why are mass school shooters taken into custody alive? Why weren't the cops body cams/dash cams turned on? Why weren't they wearing their name badges? Why don't they use their tazers? Why didn't they call paramedics as his body lay alive for half an hour before he died? https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152499318357452 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurqaSwg 4,681 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 How is anyone, on either side of this debate, making assumptions so early on? Let people do their job, let them investigate, we will see the video sooner or later. Jeez. This. He was armed and pointed a gun at the cops. I'm not watching that video though, I don't wanna see someone get shot. http://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-missouri-shot-killed-man-pulled-gun-084531706.html EDIT: Wait what are these tweets that people are talking about in this thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann 354 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I hate cops, they can all **** off tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXCXSXE 0 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I hate cops, they can all **** off tho. This person is why OP needs to be updated. The suspect pulled a gun on the officer FFS... How can anyone expect the officer not to shoot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahoganySnitch 67 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 SUCH an annoying argument. Because they surrender themselves. If they suddenly pulled a gun on a cop from 5 feet away they'd be full of holes. But they were still threats, which all these past Black victims apparently were. The argument works because if presence of gun = threat, then all those white mass shooters were as well. If peoples' logic were consistent, then these shooters should have been fatally shot as well. Hmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahoganySnitch 67 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 This. He was armed and pointed a gun at the cops. I'm not watching that video though, I don't wanna see someone get shot. http://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-missouri-shot-killed-man-pulled-gun-084531706.html EDIT: Wait what are these tweets that people are talking about in this thread? You don't actually see the moment itself, the clip cuts just right before it out of respect for the family. ALTHOUGH I am suspect. Why is barely discernible video from the OTHER side of the building released and not the video from the corner that was right there? Two other angles were released but I'm still not getting it. Not to mention the dash cams and body camera were off on the officer's part. It all makes me uneasy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild 1,296 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Don't make judgments till all of the evidence is officially and clearly released. Assuming things about the interaction between this teen and the cops is foolish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilla 13,451 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 If someone pulls a gun on you, you shoot to kill. If someone is able to overpower you and/or they have a weapon you shoot to kill. Unfortunately this. Trained to shoot at "center of mass" or so this article says (but what do I know really) http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/08/19/police-protocol-your-questions-answered We weren't there so we didn't know what unfolded, so there's lots of speculation as to what happened that is muddling the entire story. I can't have a legit opinion without seeing the cards laid out first 𝙸'𝚖 𝚊 𝚓𝚘𝚛𝚝𝚜 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚓𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚎𝚜 𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚍 𝚘𝚏 𝚐𝚒𝚛𝚕. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal 769 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 There has to be an explanation... If there's one thing i've learned from GGD and Gone Girl (lol) is that the media can be very manipulative. I can't properly judge because there is not enough clear evidence. So I don't know if the guy was shot because he was black or he did point that gun to the officer.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 But they were still threats, which all these past Black victims apparently were. The argument works because if presence of gun = threat, then all those white mass shooters were as well. If peoples' logic were consistent, then these shooters should have been fatally shot as well. Hmm. I don't even understand. Pulling a gun on cop is different than throwing your gun down and surrendering. He was like 5 feet away, if he had a gun in hand he could send a bullet through one of their heads with a twitch of his finger not sure how anyone can say when someone pulls a gun on police they aren't justified in shooting back. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 EDIT: Wait what are these tweets that people are talking about in this thread? ORIGINALLY the OP included a story from a teenager claiming to be Antonio's friend and claiming to have been right next to him when he was shot: https://twitter.com/DesJuanTheThug Jesús Christo @DesJuanTheThug · 22h 22 hours ago I can't believe my best friend just died in front of me #AntonioMartin Later: Jesús Christo @DesJuanTheThug · 19h 19 hours ago I pissed the entire country off Jesús Christo @DesJuanTheThug · 14h 14 hours ago Let's all talk about how I broke Twitter in the middle of the night. It turns out the guy was never there, and so the author of the HP article had to update the story hence: CORRECTION: A previous version of this story included an interview with a man claiming to have been at the scene of the shooting and friends with the deceased. As police have released statements saying the second person involved in the incident has fled the scene, the source is now suggesting he was never there. Ugh ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Ugh Thank you for explaining everything to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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