TMZ: Gaga denies claim by Kesha's lawyer that Dr. Luke raped her

[Nissa 51]

Do you know what the reason for this is? The best evidence that a crime was committed comes from one of those kits. Why wouldn't they be used?

 

Thanks for the facts and perspective.

 

Many states said it was because they don't get enough "funds" from the government to a--lyze them all. A couple of months ago there was one state that actually tried to clear a couple hundred of these kits (some were almost a decade old) and they caught more serial rapists (and even two or three serial killers) than they did in years. It's absolutely disgusting.

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Do you know what the reason for this is? The best evidence that a crime was committed comes from one of those kits. Why wouldn't they be used?

 

Thanks for the facts and perspective.

 

Because it isn't important to those who are in power in all the thousands of communities in the US. Rape isn't seen as something that needs to be a priority, by those who are in power.

[mirandasings 08 0]

It makes sense that it was Rob now...

 

But...why would a gay man RAPE a woman as if he was thristy for some VAGINAL s-x?

 

Ever heard of bis-xuality?

[uo111 5,251]

That's what I said in the first place. That there might just be more victims come forward, due to the fact that rapists usually have multiple victims. Now, it could be that those victims don't want to come forward...because look at how society automatically questions and dismisses rape victim's claims. It also could be that there will be enough proof of emotional turmoil, with Kesha's eating disorder that almost killed her, that they won't even need to prove the rape allegations.

 

They aren't looking to convict him, just to prove that being in the contract is unhealthy for Kesha and her mental stability.

Gaga denied it! This isn't about society questioning the claim, the "victim" (gaga) literally made a statement that the allegations that Dr. Luke raped her were completely false. You don't get more clear cut than that.

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You're not ****ing serious are you? Gaga just admitted something that happens to a LOT of rape victims: she was too traumatized and it took years for her to even accept for herself that he raped her. Most women don't report for a f*ckton of reasons (this being a rape culture we live in). Here are just a few, but there are many many more, rest assured.

 

- Police don't take rape accusations seriously in the least and it has been proven many times before that it's common for them to try to manipulate women into dropping the charges (especially if the rape wasn't committed by a total stranger);

 

- There is a statute of limitations to criminal prosecution for rape. If a woman wants to prosecute later because she couldn't before for any reason (for example PTSD, anxiety and all other byproducts of such trauma) but a couple of years have passed: too late! That rapist can never be criminally prosecuted and thus not punished, ever.

 

- People treat women who talk about their rape like absolute sh*t (victim-blaming, questioning everything about their rape, s-xual history, and SO much more). Victims, especially public ones, are almost inevitably dubbed attention wh*res and their accusation will haunt their public perception for the rest of their lives (paraphrasing Gaga in the exact interview we're talking about here: "I don't want my life, my achievements and my work to be reduced to one single moment in time a man did that to me"). Just look at Bill Cosby. 20+ unrelated women have come out over the years with similar stories that absolutely corroborate eachother and people are still victim-blaming them en masse. 20+ WOMEN.

 

- Trials can be immensely (re-)traumatizing and are highly likely to fail or will never even start;

 

- If you actually get a "rape kit" done (which is another invasion of your body and has to happen hours after the assault) it's highly likely it won't ever get used in court because there are literally more than 20,000 kits around the US right now dating from years and years ago just accumulating in warehouses because they're not being a--lyzed (even when the victims pay for those kits themselves, which is mandatory in some states);

 

I could go on for days and days listing the reasons.

 

You can be the "perfect victim" (stranger rape, not walking alone at night, wearing a ****ing burqa, having fought back and gotten wounds all over her body) who looks traumatized in all the "right ways" (read: doing everything people who know nothing about trauma THINK you should do and how you should act) and you're still damn unlikely to get any justice - and that's the understatement of the millenium. 3 out of 100 reported rapes lead to rapists seeing a single day in jail. Let that sink in for a moment. Your misogynist bullsh*t is the last thing this forum needs.

 

  :worship2:

 

Just look at what is going on at the University of Virginia. That kind of rape culture has been present at every university for decades. Those in power at multiple levels and in almost every community want s-x crimes to be ignored and pushed under the carpet.

 

Did you watch the MSNBC video, where they discussed Gaga's admission yesterday:

 

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/lady-gagas-very-personal-revelation-about-rape-366405187994

 

Everyone on this site should really watch this video, especially those who are so ignorant and clueless to believe that rape is something victims deal with in an immediate type way. It takes years and years for most victims to even begin to work through the feelings that go along with this horrendous act of violence and degradation. That's what we have been seeing in Gaga over the past few years.

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Gaga denied it! This isn't about society questioning the claim, the "victim" (gaga) literally made a statement that the allegations that Dr. Luke raped her were completely false. You don't get more clear cut than that.

Wasn't talking about Gaga.

 

If he did d--g and rape Kesha, the chances are extremely likely that she wasn't his only victim. The overwhelming majority of rapists have multiple victims. If this claim is true, then there are more than likely other victims. Whether they come forward or not, remains to be seen.

 

As to the questioning aspect of my comment- that speaks to why victims often don't come forward. (once again...I'm NOT referring to Gaga in Kesha's case) However, as we have seen, there are fans here that don't believe Gaga about her claims about another producer. That just goes to show you that people will and do automatically jump to victim doubting and blaming in these situations.

[Tropico 4,145]

So let's put all these foolish rumours to rest. We all know who it was.

[uo111 5,251]

Wasn't talking about Gaga.

 

If he did d--g and rape Kesha, the chances are extremely likely that she wasn't his only victim. The overwhelming majority of rapists have multiple victims. If this claim is true, then there are more than likely other victims. Whether they come forward or not, remains to be seen.

 

As to the questioning aspect of my comment- that speaks to why victims often don't come forward. (once again...I'm NOT referring to Gaga in Kesha's case) However, as we have seen, there are fans here that don't believe Gaga about her claims about another producer. That just goes to show you that people will and do automatically jump to victim doubting and blaming in these situations.

I don't think you understand.

 

It doesn't matter anymore.

 

They can't prove he did anything to Ke$ha, they can't prove he did anything to anyone, and they have been caught trying to get other people to make false allegations. It's over, done, the lawyer ****ed up. This lawsuit isn't gonna happen.

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I don't think you understand.

 

It doesn't matter anymore.

 

They can't prove he did anything to Ke$ha, they can't prove he did anything to anyone, and they have been caught trying to get other people to make false allegations. It's over, done, the lawyer ****ed up. This lawsuit isn't gonna happen.

 

I don't think you get it. The lawsuit is way more involved than the allegations of rape. They don't have to prove he raped her, it's just part of the overall picture of why Kesha can't work with him anymore and stay mentally stable. They aren't trying to convict him on rape charges. If a judge believes that Kesha's long term mental health will be compromised by staying in her current contract, they will rule that she is no longer required to honor that contract.

 

This lawsuit is happening and it will be a long, drawn out process. It won't matter one bit that Gaga wasn't one of the victims.

 

Let's just revisit this topic in two or three  years, because it will take at least that long to see what happens.

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

Ever heard of bis-xuality?

No...I'm Christian :derpga:

[Fish 6,087]

His 'lawyer' needs to shut his mouth. Not only is it really not his place at all to discuss Lady Gaga's private matters in such an open forum as Twitter, but I'm not sure what kind of lawyer would even use social media to discuss their ongoing cases. Not only could it affect legal proceedings, but it's just very tacky and unprofessional.

this.

[htrllllsem 14]

it's so gross how he legit jumped and point fingers in the dark, legit "omg HE RAPED GAGA TOO" like that's gonna make his case hurt so ****ing bad, what a dumb ass.

[Psychedelic 1,098]

I'm not understanding any of this...

[HANZ 4,380]

poor gaga being brought into this mess

[orb1tx 128]

I believe this is just one of Gaga's hard luck stories she has, in her repertoire to show her struggle to success and garner fan sympathy, and she got taken advantage of this disgusting lawyer.  why talk about an alleged rape you havent reported to the authorities.  its defamatory and unfair, if the accused doesn't have   a chance ot defend himself, because too much time has passed.  can prove it either way, and its no one;s business.  but still geragos was a creep for getting publicity for his case in this manner.