Pop 4,541 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 It's only a flop because she made it so. She lost belief in what she does and starting going back on her own words and thats when everyone, including her own fans - stopped believing her. The magical respect you have for a great artist was slowly disappearing with each of her "breakdowns" and "comebacks", "rebellions", etc Mix that with no real manager and the music being hit & miss and there you have it - the era was a flop. We need to deal with this and so should Gaga. She's going to need to work very hard to bring back that respect. In order to do that, she needs to start being herself again. In my opinion, she still to this day changes her mind on who she really is on a daily basis. That can't and won't ever work. The Taylor Brigade: KNOCKOUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoXoJoanneGaga 629 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Yes, simply because almost nothing went the way she wanted it to, and it had little to no impact on pop culture and the public as a whole. Gaga built such a massive, loyal fanbase off the strength of The Fame/Monster that many of them will be passionate about anything she puts out really. So saying it had impact on the fanbase doesn't really mean anything cause the era could have been done right and it would have still had impact on the fanbase while also having impact on the outside world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speechless18 2 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 No, the definision of a "flop" is if you do lots of promo, try to create what the gp wants, have radio support, more than 2 singles, music videos and still don't have album sales or any impact.. That's not the case with ARTPOP. Agreed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,618 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Never. The album is like Sushi, it is acquired taste. Which is why it's succesful in Japan. :fan: (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ dancin' until i'm dead (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 What makes ARTPOP a flop is not the underwhelming sales, but it's the simple fact that the album didn't live up to it's own mission statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune 156 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homogenik 5 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Yes - singles mess - the potential hits left behind - boring not consistent fashion - low sales - only one top5 bb hit - little impact on GP - huge blackout in the middle of era - manager fired Many of these were not in control of gaga, but the fact is - her label made it a flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsideOutright 1,118 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I wouldn't go so far as calling it a "flop", but it's definitely Gaga's least successful era to date. She didn't release enough singles, plus there wasn't much promo and then there was the whole mess with the DWUW video. And competition from Prism and its singles and massive promo compared to ARTPOP's really brought it down. I mean, compare the huge amount of radio play Gaga got in the TFM and BTW eras compared to ARTPOP. She really needs to make a comeback because she faded fast at the end of the BTW era, largely because of her hip injury, so she pretty much fell off the face of the media from mid-2012 to mid-2013 and ARTPOP didn't make her "bounce back" too much. Hopefully her next pop album will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBoot 27 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 According to the standards that get set for her: yes. It was poorly managed and she had a blackout right in the middle of it. That said, every artist has their ups and downs, it's not fair to kick her around about it and it has no bearing on her talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeofTeeth 1,934 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Not a flop, more like a growth/transitional era in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Short answer: No Long answer: No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaojen 1,571 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 People that think it's a flop are the real flops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,519 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 G.U.Y. is the only 'flop' thing about the era. Other than that, no it's not a flop era at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstereo 1,232 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Flop. It was good until DWUW didn't get a decent music video when it was first released as a single. Everything since then has been a disaster in my eyes. It was like watching small children slowly burn to death in a schoolbus in flames and all the exits are blocked off, and their screams echoing through the streets. Just absolutely tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nein 508 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Overall nein Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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