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So apparently a Palestinian Minister, Ziad Abou Zeïn, was brutalized to death because he was protesting against exproriation of their lands. Killed on Human Rights Day....but of course some here will explain how these "colonies" are perfectly "legal"!

"Brutalized to death" the same way he himself did to two 17 years old Israelis 35 years ago? This man is a terrorist & a murderer who deserved to die even before.

 

Besides that, the autopsy revealed he was having a heart attack. Ignorance at its best.

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"Brutalized to death" the same way he himself did to two 17 years old Israelis 35 years ago? This man is a terrorist & a murderer who deserved to die even before.

Besides that, the autopsy revealed he was having a heart attack. Ignorance at its best.

What ignorance? Why should we accept Israeli statement as absolute truth? Like they never lied before? :usrs: Like when they lied that they used rubber bullets which killed Palestinian teens but the truth came out months later?

Every Palestinian is a terrorist to you. Surprising.

"Israelis, Palestinians differ on autopsy results of Palestinian minister

Palestinian official says medical examination shows Ziad Abu Ein died from being struck and inhaling tear gas; Israeli source: He died from a heart attack."

http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.631117?v=A24E029EE0C46F76BCCBCACD58695453

https://twitter.com/AbbsWinston/status/542815825519198208

https://twitter.com/AbbsWinston/status/542858834776457216

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"Brutalized to death" the same way he himself did to two 17 years old Israelis 35 years ago? This man is a terrorist & a murderer who deserved to die even before.

 

Besides that, the autopsy revealed he was having a heart attack. Ignorance at its best.

 

Of course, a heart attack caused by stress. The kind of stress that happens after tear gas being fired and three soldiers beat you, that's what the AFP reporter witnessed.

 

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Of course, a heart attack caused by stress. The kind of stress that happens after tear gas being fired and three soldiers beat you, that's what the AFP reporter witnessed.

 

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A 55 old overweight terrorist shouldn't provoke security forces. :)

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A 55 old overweight terrorist shouldn't provoke security forces. :)

Terrorist? where did you get that from? sounds like propaganda....

Not to mention the demonstration was pacific....why are there israeli security forces in the first place and why doesn't Israel stop the colonies already?

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Terrorist? where did you get that from? sounds like propaganda....

Not to mention the demonstration was pacific....why are there israeli security forces in the first place and why doesn't Israel stop the colonies already?

Propaganda?

In 1979, Ziad abu Ein planted a bomb in a garbage pail in Tiberias, murdering two teenagers, Boaz Lahav (16) and David Lankri (14). 32 people were injured.

 

In 1982, he was sentenced to life in jail, after being extradited from the US.

But he only served 3 years.

He was released in the Jibril Rajoub prisoner swap in 1985.

 

Hence his qualifications to be a PA minister – he was a child killer.

His heart attack came 35 years too late, and it’s a shame this terrorist wasn’t actually beaten up by IDF soldiers.

 

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Terrorist? where did you get that from? sounds like propaganda....

Not to mention the demonstration was pacific....why are there israeli security forces in the first place and why doesn't Israel stop the colonies already?

 

Israeli media are today reporting that Abu Ein, 55, who headed a department that deals with Israeli settlements and land confiscation, “spent several years in Israeli prison for his role in a 1979 terrorist attack in Tiberias†which killed two Israeli 16-year-olds, Boaz Lahav and David Lankri.

But details of his situation from more than thirty years ago show that it was not the open and shut case Israeli media now present.

Back in 1981, The Christian Science Monitor reported:

A precedent-setting US court decision paving the way for the extradition of a Palestinian to Israel has been virtually ignored by the US press. But it nets headlines almost daily in Jordan and other Arab countries.

The man at the center of the controversy is 20-year-old West Bank resident Ziad Abu Ein. Mr. Abu Ein has been held in a Chicago jail without bail since August 1979. Israel has charged him with planting a bomb which killed two children in a crowded Tiberias marketplace.

Abu Ein claims that the two Palestinians who signed confessions incriminating him while held in Israeli prisons in connection with the same incident have since retracted their statements. He also claims to have 14 witnesses who can verify that he was miles away at the time of the bombing.

 

Here’s the crucial part:

 

Neither the retracted confessions nor Abu Ein’s documented assertion that he was elsewhere at the time of the incident was admitted as evidence in the extradition hearings. The court reasoned that such testimony contradicts rather than explains the Israeli charges and as such is appropriate only in the criminal trial itself.

 

None of that mattered. The US court sent Abu Ein back to Israel, where Palestinians could not (and still cannot) count on anything resembling a fair trial and routinely faced torture in order to extract confessions.

Just like Palestinian American community leader Rasmea Odeh today, Abu Ein’s case garnered broad support from Arab American activists at the time.

He was defended by veteran civil rights lawyer Abdeen Jabara who said at the time that the extradition decision was “almost totally political†and “absolutely shocking†from the standpoint of both law and fact.

Former South Dakota senator and American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee founder James Abourezk told The Christian Science Monitor that Abu Ein was “not getting a fair shake. The only reason he’s being treated like this is because he’s a Palestinian. That’s currently an unpopular ethnic group.â€

Abu Ein’s defenders, as the article explains in detail, said the State Department had pressured the courts to extradite him.

Abu Ein served only a few years in prison before being released in 1985 as part of a prisoner exchange.

When he returned to the occupied West Bank along with hundreds of other freed prisoners, he said he thought he was at risk of retaliation by Jewish settler militias that were regularly attempting to assassinate Palestinians.

“Everybody knows my face. They know me well,†The Chicago Tribune quoted him saying. “(The Israelis) can do whatever they want with me because they have the weapons and the power.â€

“I believe that God is once and death will be once,†Abu Ein added. “If they kill me, I will be a martyr for the cause.â€

“Security coordinationâ€

Abu Ein’s death has also brought new criticism on the Palestinian Authority’s policy of “security coordination†with the Israeli occupation.

Under this policy, the PA and Israeli forces work closely together to suppress Palestinian resistance and to keep the occupied population under control.

“The murder of Abu Ein, a minister of the Palestinian Authority, must be a clear imperative to finally cancel the treacherous ‘security coordination’ between the PA and the occupation which has led to the imprisonment and killing of Palestinians and betrays and undermines all Palestinian organizing and resistance,†said Samidoun, the Canada-based Palestinian advocacy network.

Under such pressure at home and abroad, PA officials are now saying they will “limit†work with the occupation.

But given the high-level commitment to security coordination, which PA leader Mahmoud Abbas has termed “sacred,†such statements should be treated with skepticism.

 

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/pa-official-ziad-abu-ein-was-first-palestinian-extradited-us-israel

http://www.csmonitor.com/1981/0305/030545.html

 

 

Hence his qualifications to be a PA minister – he was a child killer.

 

lol like those who serve in IDF, also known as babykillers.

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Shared.  :teehee:

Inb4 it's okay to be homophobic as long as it's not against the law :derpga:

But slay Israel, only country in Middle Eastern where gays have actually rights and live their life

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Israel's move to hold half a billion shekels of tax revenues from the Palestinian Authority is a war crime, Saeb Erekat said on Saturday.

The decision to freeze the transfer of more than $127 million in tax monies collected in December was made following the Palestinians' recent attempts to join the International Criminal Court, an Israeli official told Haaretz.

Erekat, a member of the PLO Executive Committee and the former chief Palestinian negotiator in the peace negotiations with Israel, told Haaretz that the move was "daylight robbery and an act more appropriate to pirates and not governments."

"This is money that is Palestinian money and therefore the decision of the Israeli government and [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu to freeze it is against international law and it proves the justice of our request to the International Criminal Court," Erekat said. "What Israel did is a war crime that joins the crimes it has committed against the Palestinian people."

Withholding the funds could prevent the payment of salaries to teachers and doctors and prevent the provision of services to the Palestinian people, including women and children, Erekat said.

 

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.635178

 

Israel to ask U.S. congressmen to halt aid to Palestinians
Recently passed American legislation states that if the Palestinians initiate any action against Israel at the ICC, the State Department would have to stop American aid to the PA, which comes to some $400 million annually.

 

A senior Israeli official said on Sunday Jerusalem would be contacting pro-Israel members of the U.S. Congress to ensure the enforcement of legislation stipulating that if the Palestinians initiate any action against Israel at the ICC, the State Department would have to stop American aid to the PA, which comes to some $400 million annually. The stop-gap funding bill was passed in Congress last month.

 

Both houses of the new Congress to be seated later this month will be controlled by the Republican Party, with many key positions filled by senators and representatives who are pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian. The law regarding the Palestinians initiating action at the ICC is strongly worded and states that President Barack Obama cannot waive a decision to halt aid to the PA.

 

 

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.635316

 

 

****ing cowards.

 

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"A husband and wife in thier 30s, Eitam and Na'ama Henkin from the settlment of Neria, were killed in a drive-by shooting attack on the road between Itamar and Elon Moreh in the West Bank on Thursday night. Their four children aged 9, 7, 4 and 4 months were in the car and were said to be physically unharmed but treated for shock.

The IDF confirmed that two Israelis were killed in the shooting attack, and that its forces were conducting sweeps in the area in an attempt to capture the perpetrators.

"It was a very difficult sight," said MDA paramedic Boaz Malka. "We saw a car in the middle of the road with a man in his thirties next to it with wounds to his upper body, and a woman in her thirties inside the car also seriously wounded in her upper body. They were without signs of life, and unfortunately we had to declare them dead at the scene." 
 
A Hamas spokesman praised the attack by the "brave resistance," calling the murderous act "heroic," and vowing to continue the struggle against Israel. The organization call for its members to carry out more attacks against Israel. 
 
Knesset opposition chairman Isaac Herzog, said on his Twitter account: "The murder in Samaria which immediately put an end to the holiday jubilation, is abhorrent and extremely painful. I send my condolences to the family and the community at large which is hurting and feeling such pain. We must let the IDF and security forces act quickly and steadfastly in order to capture these murders." 

The UN's Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, Nickolay Mladenov, said, “I condemn this evening’s shooting attack on an Israeli civilian vehicle which resulted in the death of two people and injuries to their four children in the occupied West Bank.There is nothing heroic about the killing of civilians. The perpetrators of this violent act must be brought to justice." 

President Reuven Rivlin also condemned the attack, saying: "Tonight, bloodthirsty murderers claimed the lives of a mother and a father, leaving their young children orphaned. The heart breaks at the magnitude of such cruelty and hatred. 

"We will continue in our brave and unwavering fight against this cruel and heinous terrorism - of this our enemies can be sure," continued the president. "This is our duty, and the only way we can ensure the right of the orphans who lost their parents tonight, along with the right of all our children and grandchildren, to live with security and in peace, everywhere in the Land of Israel."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4706203,00.html

 

Israel needs to get rid of settlements. It's for both sides not safe. Those poor children seeing their parents dying. I don't wanna know what they are going through right now. At least they are not physically pain, but I guess the psychically pain is big :ohno:

 

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RIP though. Poor kids.

A Hamas spokesman praised the attack by the "brave resistance," calling the murderous act "heroic," and vowing to continue the struggle against Israel. The organization call for its members to carry out more attacks against Israel. 
 

wtf?

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