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Horrible. I was talking with Israelis and some have current fears for just going out :ohno:

 

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so if palestine gets its own state and the terrorist attacks on israel by hamas continues, israel can declare war , destroy them and just take what land they want cant they?

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Orel Azori Bat Limor who was stabbed 8 times and run over by an arab terrorist on 11 October 2015

 

 

How many Palestinian kids she killed last summer?

Sorry but they are armed soldiers who protect illegal settlers and terrorize Palestinians on daily basis, they are not civilians. So any attack against them cannot be called terrorism.

I'm justifying the action but by definition it's not terrorism. 

so if palestine gets its own state and the terrorist attacks on israel by hamas continues, israel can declare war , destroy them and just take what land they want cant they?

Luiz, you are talking about this topic like you just heard about it yesterday.  :emma: 

You mean they will continue what they were doing all these decades?

What about Israeli terrorism, when will it stop?

 

 

 

 

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so if palestine gets its own state and the terrorist attacks on israel by hamas continues, israel can declare war , destroy them and just take what land they want cant they?

Well, I don't know actually. If Palestine gets a state and Israel and all the Jews leave West Bank, they could declare war, but I highly doubt that Palestinians would be that dumb 

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@lego if they gave them what they want (palestinian state) and went to war over some terrorist attack they could do what they've been doing for decades but do it faster. this is why i stopped wanting the 2 state solution a while ago.

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@lego if they gave them what they want (palestinian state) and went to war over some terrorist attack they could do what they've been doing for decades but do it faster. this is why i stopped wanting the 2 state solution a while ago.

Palestinians want their freedom and end of occupation. But that will never happen. Israeli government will never remove the settlements. 

 

What is your solution?

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Palestinians want their freedom and end of occupation. But that will never happen. Israeli government will never remove the settlements. 

 

What is your solution?

yes the settlements are screwed up but even if they stopped the settlements to give the palestinians their own state it would still be problems between both sides. do you think the zionist government in israel wouldnt fabricate(if they have to) a terrorist attack in order to accomplish their goal? it could create an even bloodier conflict than we have right now.

 

and there really is no solution. the hatred on both sides is too deep. you can declare peace all you want but there will always be that person who holds a grudge and will want revenge which starts the cycle of violence all over again. some issues really do look like there are literally zero soutions. it will just keep going on with nothing done to fix it due to stubborn politicians and their ideologies that drive them.

it will end when **** really hits the fan and one of them (jews or palestinians) are driven out of that area completely.

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'A man stood no more than four feet from me and threw this rock which hit me on the back of the head', Mr Amos told The Independent

A 66-year-old British man volunteering in the West Bank has been hospitalised after being attacked by a gang of gun-wielding Israeli settlers hurling rocks at him.

David Amos, a retired publishing company worker, was struck in the head by a rock as he tried to protect Palestinian farmers during the olive harvest.

He was evacuated from the area by ambulance and taken to a hospital in Nablus, where he received five stitches.

He told The Independent the group of settlers came down a hill from the direction of the Yizhar settlement towards Palestinian farmland near the village of Burin where he and two other British women. ''There were eight or nine of the settlers, all masked and they were carrying large rocks.''

Mr Amos said that the settlers fired gunshots as they approached, causing him to sit on the ground and yell to his colleagues to take cover. ''They were shouting at us 'go' in English and also shouting in Hebrew. A man stood no more than four feet from me and threw this rock which hit me on the back of the head. I was sitting upright and I fell over on my side and then he and two others kicked me. The women were shouting 'we are British' so they knew we were British before the rock was thrown.''

Mr Amos said the settlers also set fire to undergrowth. ''There was already a fire burning by the time they threw the stone at me. They set fire to more trees and undergrowth as we made our way away from the olive grove. They pursued us but they didn't come and attack us again.'' A Palestinian farmer was also wounded by stone throwing in the same incident, Mr Amos said.

Mr Amos said he would file a complaint with Israeli police even though such complaints very rarely lead to indictments. Mr Amos, a Quaker, came to the West Bank with the British group, the Olive Harvest Trust, which he says is an organisation committed to nonviolence and to protecting Palestinian olive farmers.

Palestinian eye-witnesses claimed that the group of farmers was attacked and had stones thrown at them. 

According to a police statement, the Israelis claimed that the altercation began after stones were thrown at a car belonging to an Israeli woman.

Ziv Stahl, Research Department Director, Yesh Din said: "We are in the midst of the olive harvest season, and Burin is a known friction area, where Yesh Din has documented numerous violent incidents against Palestinian farmers. During this period of high tension, we would expect that the Israeli security forces would be present on the ground in order to prevent any escalation of violence and to protect the local population, as they are obliged by law. 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/david-amos-gun-wielding-gang-of-israeli-settlers-attack-british-pro-palestinian-volunteer-in-west-a6693986.html

 

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yes the settlements are screwed up but even if they stopped the settlements to give the palestinians their own state it would still be problems between both sides. do you think the zionist government in israel wouldnt fabricate(if they have to) a terrorist attack in order to accomplish their goal? it could create an even bloodier conflict than we have right now.

 

and there really is no solution. the hatred on both sides is too deep. you can declare peace all you want but there will always be that person who holds a grudge and will want revenge which starts the cycle of violence all over again. some issues really do look like there are literally zero soutions. it will just keep going on with nothing done to fix it due to stubborn politicians and their ideologies that drive them.

it will end when **** really hits the fan and one of them (jews or palestinians) are driven out of that area completely.

What about international pressure and if West stops supporting Israel? (also unlikely I know) :emma: 

In that case I don't think they would declare a war. 

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