Benji 20,113 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Believe what makes you happy. It's not something bad, it's biased... I just can't see how someone who is old enough to have seen every tour would think someone saying that a tour isn't their favourite is a bad thing? It's reading comprehension, I love the artRAVE but it's not my favourite tour? I don't really understand your point, I mean I haven't came in here saying it's bad but whatever floats your boat I guess, read what you want to read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicemuncher 1,708 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I've been to the Monster Ball and the artRAVE. For me, the artRAVE was a better overall experience, I just loved it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarfall 3,723 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Yay artRAVE a great show And slay bc Britters and Madge got dat recognition too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 That's like watching a movie from a CAM release, expect the best experience and write a review based on it... You can still judge the content and judge it objectively as you're very aware of what the experience actually is if you've attended concerts before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune 156 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 that's dumb tbh it's just a concert and I can judge it based on videos I didn't attend the monster ball but I attended the Femme Fatale Tour and I can tell you that the Monster Ball is miles better It's just a movie, you can judge it based on a CAM release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune 156 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 You can still judge the content and judge it objectively as you're very aware of what the experience actually is if you've attended concerts before. That depends on how you think it's right to judge something. There's no "right and wrong" when it comes to art, and that includes a tour. You can't judge a Christopher Nolan movie the same way you judge a Michael Bay movie, simply because they have different aims behind them. The artRAVE was created to truly be a party and it takes a different approach from her past tours. It's kind of silly to judge it without experiencing it, since you're not judging it the way it should be judged. You don't watch youtube videos of people dancing if you want to dance, if that makes any sense to you. If you're trying to judge all her tour based on the same criteria, that's kind of biased since they all had different objectives. The same way you don't judge a Dali based on the same criteria you use to judge a Da Vinci. Different approaches, different aims, different results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Only artRAVE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 That depends on how you think it's right to judge something. There's no "right and wrong" when it comes to art, and that includes a tour. You can't judge a Christopher Nolan movie the same way you judge a Michael Bay movie, simply because they have different aims behind them. The artRAVE was created to truly be a party and it takes a different approach from her past tours. It's kind of silly to judge it without experiencing it, since you're not judging it the way it should be judged. You don't watch youtube videos of people dancing if you want to dance, if that makes any sense to you. If you're trying to judge all her tour based on the same criteria, that's kind of biased since they all had different objectives. The same way you don't judge a Dali based on the same criteria you use to judge a Da Vinci. Different approaches, different aims, different results. Okay, first of all... I didn't say anything bad about the tour, considering it's a tour for an album by Gaga it's fair to compare it to her other's. These aren't different artist's, this is the same artist with the same intention, to entertain her audience with her latest creative piece. It's not "kind of silly" to judge it without seeing it, it's not silly at all. I've built my opinion on what I know about the tour such as the setlist, outfits and what she's done in her performances. I never seen the Monsterball live but it's visually and sonically more to my taste than the artRAVE, does that make the artRAVE bad? No, I never said it is or was bad, I simply said it wasn't my favourite. All of her tours have had the same intention, if you can't see that then we're ending the conversation here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune 156 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Okay, first of all... I didn't say anything bad about the tour, considering it's a tour for an album by Gaga it's fair to compare it to her other's. These aren't different artist's, this is the same artist with the same intention, to entertain her audience with her latest creative piece. It's not "kind of silly" to judge it without seeing it, it's not silly at all. I've built my opinion on what I know about the tour such as the setlist, outfits and what she's done in her performances. I never seen the Monsterball live but it's visually and sonically more to my taste than the artRAVE, does that make the artRAVE bad? No, I never said it is or was bad, I simply said it wasn't my favourite. All of her tours have had the same intention, if you can't see that then we're ending the conversation here You lost me there. It's just your opinion, anyway. All of her tour may have had the same intention, but the ways she uses to achieve that are different, and they should be judged properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 You lost me there. It's just your opinion, anyway. All of her tour may have had the same intention, but the ways she uses to achieve that are different, and they should be judged properly. That's what I've been saying all along, at no point did I claim it wasn't as good as the others, I said it isn't my favourite. :dead: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Tbh I think this slays And I believe artRave is more outlandish BTWB and MTB are more high concept and eccentric This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernier 3,786 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 They've been praising her since she dragged them :legend: Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic 1,098 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 SLAY!!! Definitely one of her best shows! Monster Ball 2.0 > artRAVE > Monster Ball 1.0 > Fame Ball >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTWB That last show gets so overrated by monster... and it's my favorite album an era, but the tour is like for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
053Timo 1,682 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I prefer the artRAVE over TBTWB. It was SO SO fun. She wowed me from start to end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSL 2,429 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Yay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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