Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Istanbul (AFP) - Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Saturday that the Americas were discovered by Muslims in the 12th century, nearly three centuries before Christopher Columbus set foot there. "Contacts between Latin America and Islam date back to the 12th century. Muslims discovered America in 1178, not Christopher Columbus," the conservative president said in a televised speech during an Istanbul summit of Muslim leaders from Latin America. "Muslim sailors arrived in America from 1178. Columbus mentioned the existence of a mosque on a hill on the Cuban coast," Erdogan said. Erdogan said that Ankara was even prepared to build a mosque at the site mentioned by the Genoese explorer. "I would like to talk about it to my Cuban brothers. A mosque would go perfectly on the hill today," the Turkish leader said. History books say that Columbus set foot on the American continent in 1492 as he was seeking a new maritime route to India. A tiny minority of Muslim scholars have recently suggested a prior Muslim presence in the Americas, although no pre-Columbian ruin of an Islamic structure has ever been found. In a controversial article published in 1996, historian Youssef Mroueh refers to a diary entry from Columbus that mentions a mosque in Cuba. But the passage is widely understood to be a metaphorical reference to the shape of the landscape. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/erdogan-says-muslims-not-columbus-discovered-americas-162759161.html Quote from Journal: "Remarking on the position of the river and port, to which he gave the name of San Salvador, he describes its mountains as lofty and beautiful, like the Pena de las Enamoradas, and one of them has another little hill on its summit, like a graceful mosque. The other river and port, in which he now was, has two round mountains to the S.W., and a fine low cape running out to the W.S.W." Journal of First Voyage, Oct 29, 1492. Delusion at its finest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Josh 3 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Erdogan is a damn mess and needs to go already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 some of them like to claim a lot of things 4 themselveslike science innovations etc of the quran + muaslim society 1000 years ago being the science centre of the worldtho this was what over a millenium ago and may be true but get with the times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaMaisonGaga 23,884 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The delusion. Honey choose first which continent your country belongs to before talking about discovering other people's countries. lamaisongaga.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo 8,586 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 metaphors..... Don't visit my profile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 has he ever heard about the vikings? or the Inuit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayhan 8 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Erdogan is a damn mess and needs to go already. cosigned this. I wonder which world he lives in. The social media in here mocks with him a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The Vikings were first. They landed in Newfoundland around 1000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Anse_aux_Meadows although no pre-Columbian ruin of an Islamic structure has ever been found. But Viking ruins have been found. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Josh 3 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 cosigned this. I wonder which world he lives in. The social media in here mocks with him a lot I've been following news about him for a while, he's just trying to take Turkey back to 1900 . He needs to be stopped quickly, before serious damage is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The Vikings were first. They landed in Newfoundland around 1000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Anse_aux_Meadows But Viking ruins have been found. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannaeDrive 3,412 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 metaphors..... Can they learn to read properly already?? :sweep: "Fame Is A Boomerang" - Maria Callas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 First things first, Columbus did not discover America! He thought America was India. Like so many others. Amerigo Vespucci was the first person from europe who realized that is a place that europeans have never been to . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci In addition, Columbus was probably toooooo dumb. Just think about it he had description of India(he has never been to India at the time he went to America) He thought America was india, even tho they do not look alike by any aspect.. Even foods, trees are different. WHAT HE SAYS CONCERNS HIM NOT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. Plus yeah he is a fool. He is such a disgrace for whole turkish heritage, and disgrace for a real innovative gentleman, founder of Republic of Turkey ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk PS: this whole discussion tell me that history classes should be obligatory. Honestly ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMonster 1,806 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The delusion. Honey choose first which continent your country belongs to before talking about discovering other people's countries. This is so sad that this guys is turkish president. The problem with Turkey is now that ignorant minorities&conservatives are united. He has around 40% vote in the country actually but opposed parties are not united so there is space for him to take power. He is crazy for power. According to his agenda Turkey gets stronger as a state just like Russia, but loses its human rights and liberal aspects. Turkey is one of the country who transitioned to Republic earlier than most of the world. Women's suffrage in early 19s! Being gay is decriminalized in 1858 in Ottoman Empire, now known as Turkey. Turkey is not a muslim state, it is a secular state who has mostly muslim population. The biggest gay parade of Eastern Europe is held in Istanbul. Turkey is much more liberal than all eastern european countries like Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia etc. Also There are 4 political parties in national assembly now, 2 of them supports gay marriage. Just to understand liberal side of Turkey, you can search gezi protests. #occupygezi ... This was a great rally for human rights. There are so many crazy ****s because of conservatives in all eastern europe, nobody stands up, atleast in Turkey there are enough enlightened people who stand up and fight for their rights! WHAT THIS GUY SAYS CONCERN HIM not a whole community.... Openly Gay, Openly Atheist, born and raised Istanbulite here. And Turkey has both territory on europe and on asia. Culturally too western part is more liberal, eastern part is more conservative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespertine 3 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 vÃnland says otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 "discovered" ****ing kidding me ***** we been here. viva la raza! .......just kidding but come on man how are you even going to use the word "discovered" with what we know about history today? I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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