teo 609 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 $500,000 may sound a lot, but let's not forget how many people are behind her. You know the lady who cleans the record label's toilets should get paid too. :haha: I think they have a point, especially with the part where they say she's one of the biggest ones and makes this, what about the not so popular ones. I remember reading somewhere that one of the people who co wrote Wake me up by Avicii, the most played song there, earned like $4000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merier Care 27 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 it's one thing to decide to not put your album on spotify.. but stop complaining 24/7 you annoying pos! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster2015 1,117 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I mean if this is your only means of money and what you do on a daily basis, Hun I would want every coin! All the time in the studio, writing music, performing them, award shows, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Ambition 47,805 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 *sigh* It doesn't matter that she makes a lot of money already. If she's not being paid fairly for her work (which mind you, doesn't 100% go to taylor, but mostly her team of not famous people helping behind the scenes), then she deserves the proper payment. I'm not even a taylor swift fan and I'm agreeing with her. It doesn't make her greedy, it shows that she knows the value of her art. And if this was gaga, you would all be defending her and attacking the people mocking her and calling her 'greedy'. So all of you can kindly take a seat. Well said! I don't even get the whole deal with Spotify anyways, its not available in Canada so I never used it. You don't wanna pay for the damn music? Illegally download it and put it on iTunes. It's not that difficult. ▌│█║▌║▌║ before I am Canadian, I am Chromatican ║▌║▌║█│▌ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Why do they keep blaming the decline of album sales on streaming services like Spotify? Clearly it contributes but illegal downloading was obviously the start of the problem and is more harmful to their profits. If the record labels continue to insist on charging stupid amounts of money for digital albums, less and less people are gonna buy. And if Spotify wasn't available with it's incredible value for money, those people would be torrenting these albums instead. At least they get something from streaming. They would get nothing otherwise. It's like the best of a bad situation. As Spotify's audience continues to grow (which it is, fast), they will have the funds to pay out more royalties to the artists. (I heard somewhere that Spotify aren't actually turning much of a profit at the moment, is that true?) Taylor isn't going to single-handedly stop that growth in popularity, so unless she changes her mind she could be cutting off a major potential audience in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stmated 1 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I don't even get the whole deal with Spotify anyways, its not available in Canada so I never used it. You don't wanna pay for the damn music? Illegally download it and put it on iTunes. It's not that difficult. Of course you don't get it. You've never used it. Kinda flawed argument. And Spotify does not equal "Free" -- there are many premium subscribers. I seriously have no idea why people even use the free version, since it has ads and only allows playing the of the music a certain number of times (or whatever, I have no idea, I've never used that version). I think the free version should be even more restrictive, though. It should be more like a small demo, and not something you can use every day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nein 508 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 But if Gaga had done this everyone would be like "Yaaaasssss Mama, show it to them, work it girl, you own the world... Yaaasssss" more like half of the posts dragging Gaga not even joking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeehawKylie 7,817 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Albums I have bought after listening to them on Spotify: Queen of the Clouds - Tove Lo Habits - Neon Trees Pop Psychology - Neon Trees Broke with Expensive Taste - Azealia Banks (I listened to her EPs) A few more I can't remember off the top of my head.... :koons: When not browsing music I consider purchasing I usually listen to music I already own. I have a lot of physical CD's, all on my phone now, but I'd rather listen to an artist from my computer than from my phone at work. So I guess I've paid for the artists album and am also giving them profits from Spotify? Let's be honest, if Taylor had withheld her music from Spotify in support of OTHER (smaller or less selling) artists and their profits, she'd look favorable. This is all about her profits though. As I've said before, artists who contemplate putting their work on Spotify must wrestle the idea of whether they want exposure with minimal profits or non-exposure and no profit. A lot of people seem to be making an argument for the smaller artists, but I think they appreciate Spotify more. You cannot deny the exposure one gets. Whereas many may illegally download an album, now you have a streaming service where you at least make a profit and can lead to more sales. It's all about whether one likes your music enough to go out and buy the album. People acting like Spotify is the source of all the music industry's problems are incredibly dense. Swift and her company complain about it impacting sales, but she sold 1.3 million her first week and 450K her second week. Is it really hurting sales the much in her case? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Ambition 47,805 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Of course you don't get it. You've never used it. Kinda flawed argument. And Spotify does not equal "Free" -- there are many premium subscribers. I seriously have no idea why people even use the free version, since it has ads and only allows playing the of the music a certain number of times (or whatever, I have no idea, I've never used that version). I think the free version should be even more restrictive, though. It should be more like a small demo, and not something you can use every day. It wasn't an argument. I was just saying my opinion on Spotify, even if it was available for me, I would most likely not use it. Thats all. ▌│█║▌║▌║ before I am Canadian, I am Chromatican ║▌║▌║█│▌ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,185 Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Of course you don't get it. You've never used it. Kinda flawed argument. And Spotify does not equal "Free" -- there are many premium subscribers. I seriously have no idea why people even use the free version, since it has ads and only allows playing the of the music a certain number of times (or whatever, I have no idea, I've never used that version). I think the free version should be even more restrictive, though. It should be more like a small demo, and not something you can use every day. No, with the free one you can listen to whatever you want as much as you want on a computer. It has ads but they come on like after every 5 songs you play, and they are usually only 15 seconds. On mobile you can only listen on shuffle mode. Premium is basically just no ads, can select music on mobile, and listen offline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,985 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 What a stupid post. You clearly didn't even bother to read a single word of that damn article. Embarrassing. LMAO How ironic. You obviously didn't give two craps as to what I wrote and just started to bash me because I wasn't stanning for Taylor. In fact, I read every single word in the article. Maybe you should reread the article, open up your mind, try to understand my POV and how it relates to the article before bashing me and calling my post stupid. Embarassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I still don't see how Taylor Swift or her label are in the wrong with any of this Why would you not want to be paid the most for your job? For us $500,000 may be amazing, but we need to take into account that Taylor and her lifestyle are more expensive than ours, so she needs a larger sum of money than we do to keep living it Plus this isn't just about her, this is about a large group of people who would all rather be paid what they usually would for their hard work and effort, than be paid less just because people feel like they somehow deserve music at a lower price Why should they put her music onto a place where they doesn't recieve as much as they would normally by other means? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Fire 7,577 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 What's wrong with making music as accessable as possible? Gaga also did the 99 cents with BTW with so much money loss. It's the music. But I do agree that artists should get what they deserve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 27,133 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 To be honest when you see people struggling to feed their family and this greedy girl who's already rich remooving her music to win more money although she wins way more than she needs,,, disgusting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I feel like this makes her look like shes all about the money. Don't get me wrong she deserves the 6mill/ whatever shes entitled to as an artist. But I feel like its bad for her image to fight this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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