Pop 4,541 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 12:49 AM, craig said: They ARE allowed to speak in the song. Which is rare for back-up singers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YbGN1BMSLc There's an interview where the interviewer tried to ask one of the girls a question, and she was like "THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK". And lets not forget the performance where they had to bow down on their knees before her. The Taylor Brigade: KNOCKOUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 104,782 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Harajuku Girls is cute and bpdies Harajuku street Fashion. TIME can seethe and try again mext time. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ 𝒮𝓀𝒾𝓅𝓅𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒻𝒶𝓈𝓉 𝓇𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝒶𝓇𝑜𝓊𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓂𝑜𝑜𝓃 (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 1:07 AM, Pop said: There's an interview where the interviewer tried to ask one of the girls a question, and she was like "THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK". And lets not forget the performance where they had to bow down on their knees before her. The first may have been a dramatic convention. (like Daft Punk's image). The latter may be CLASSIST, but no worse than Beyonce's Partition video. I prefer how Kylie interacts with her back-up singers like they were a friendly girl group, but many pop stars act like they are queens on stage and the supporting dancers are lessor, subservient props. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop 4,541 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 1:16 AM, craig said: The first may have been a dramatic convention. (like Daft Punk's image). The latter may be CLASSIST, but no worse than Beyonce's Partition video. I prefer how Kylie interacts with her back-up singers like they were a friendly girl group, but many pop stars act like they are queens on stage and the supporting dancers are lessor, subservient props. You are a racist apologist. I'm done here. The Taylor Brigade: KNOCKOUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguinaga09 1 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I never found it racist lol I love The Harajuku Girls <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 1:21 AM, Aguinaga09 said: I never found it racist lol I love The Harajuku Girls <3 But just because you didn't, doesn't mean it wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop 4,541 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 1:24 AM, MoneyPepsiGlory said: But just because you didn't, doesn't mean it wasn't. :blood: But white apologists don't seem to get that their opinion =/= opinion of the minority. The Taylor Brigade: KNOCKOUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 1:20 AM, Pop said: You are a racist apologist. I'm done here. It's so wonderfully anti-racist to deny those girls a chance to be back-up dancers for Gwen - with the logical implication being she hire white girls, because it's only PC for whites to appear subservient to whites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahoganySnitch 67 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/23/2014 at 8:18 PM, MoneyPepsiGlory said: I think it is VERY VERY VERY problematic that a lot of you people would rather just dismiss it and say things like "oh everything is racist these days" instead of taking the issue seriously and discussing why Margaret Cho and many other Asian people are so offended. This tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 1:16 AM, craig said: The first may have been a dramatic convention. (like Daft Punk's image). The latter may be CLASSIST, but no worse than Beyonce's Partition video. This seems like a clouded interpretation, in my opinion. but you may be right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernier 3,786 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I've been wondering how long it would take for something like this to be written ever since SJWs started getting more vocal Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 1:55 AM, PurplePatch said: I've been wondering how long it would take for something like this to be written ever since SJWs started getting more vocal Seriously, I do not understand what is so wrong about having an open discussion about something that people find offensive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inuborg 4,136 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I don't think Gwen is racist, just a little too obsessed with the culture I root for you. I love you. You, you, you, you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,153 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I think it was more about Gwen's desire to kickstart (and by extension, cash in) on an Asian fanbase more than anything else. Southeast Asian commerce in regards to albums and touring sales is big business. You only need to look at the massive success of artists like Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Avril Lavigne and Gaga in these regions to realise that getting Asian fans can keep your career afloat. God knows they've been the only thing keeping Avril's head above water recently. Their loyalty to artists is famous, so really embrace them and they'll keep buying your work. I'm feeling like the Harajuku girls were Gwen's attempt to connect with Asian (particularly Japanese) markets. But the whole scheme backfired. Her work barely charted in Asia and she only had a tiny tour there and didn't sell out her venues. And with that, the Harajuki thing faded away. So, I assumed it was a bit of a marketing ploy that was let go when it wasn't successful. The way she handled this gimmick was so cringey. She just came across as a weebo the whole time and did that awful thing that westerners do with Asians: treat them like they're cute, on the same level as children or small animals. I don't know how Asians put up with that nonsense. I'm white and have always got so annoyed when anyone called me cute or sweet or treated me like a kid just because I was quiet and looked young. If an ignorant foreigner did the same thing in a different language, it would get on my last nerve. We're too quick to accuse of racism these days, but a lot of us are quite guilty of stereotyping, consciously or unconsciously. I feel that's more what Gwen was doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 On 10/24/2014 at 3:03 AM, StrawberryBlond said: I think it was more about Gwen's desire to kickstart (and by extension, cash in) on an Asian fanbase more than anything else. Southeast Asian commerce in regards to albums and touring sales is big business. You only need to look at the massive success of artists like Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Avril Lavigne and Gaga in these regions to realise that getting Asian fans can keep your career afloat. God knows they've been the only thing keeping Avril's head above water recently. Their loyalty to artists is famous, so really embrace them and they'll keep buying your work. I'm feeling like the Harajuku girls were Gwen's attempt to connect with Asian (particularly Japanese) markets. But the whole scheme backfired. Her work barely charted in Asia and she only had a tiny tour there and didn't sell out her venues. And with that, the Harajuki thing faded away. So, I assumed it was a bit of a marketing ploy that was let go when it wasn't successful. The way she handled this gimmick was so cringey. She just came across as a weebo the whole time and did that awful thing that westerners do with Asians: treat them like they're cute, on the same level as children or small animals. I don't know how Asians put up with that nonsense. I'm white and have always got so annoyed when anyone called me cute or sweet or treated me like a kid just because I was quiet and looked young. If an ignorant foreigner did the same thing in a different language, it would get on my last nerve. We're too quick to accuse of racism these days, but a lot of us are quite guilty of stereotyping, consciously or unconsciously. I feel that's more what Gwen was doing. Eloquently put. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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