Americano 31,061 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Remember when BTW shifted like 6M copies in a matter of months? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 15,088 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Remember when BTW shifted like 6M copies in a matter of months? Arturo, you gonna have to hold me back cause I'm about to let it fly and someone's gonna get dragged to the pits :grr: British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enhsa 2,043 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The ARTPOP era still sold more records than some other girls' recent eras Like I said, the 1.85M number is from Mediatraffic. IFPI reported 2.3M by the end of 2013 but those are most likely shipments. Gaga then said, around March 2014, that ARTPOP shifted 2.5M copies. Once again, Gaga's numbers were based on shipments. Thnx ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Arturo, you gonna have to hold me back cause I'm about to let it fly and someone's gonna get dragged to the pits ARTPOP's sales are pretty horrible. That's not even an insult to Gaga, she's doing very well with C2C. But compared to her previous records, that album SEVERELY underperformed. No one said it was her fault, either. She clearly had management conflict and personal issues going on, and it's done with. She's in a better place mentally and commercially now than she was then. It's a statement of fact, not shade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enhsa 2,043 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 so why ask? everyone say different numbers it has sold more by now I just want to makk sure that's all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 15,088 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 ARTPOP's sales are pretty horrible. That's not even an insult to Gaga, she's doing very well with C2C. But compared to her previous records, that album SEVERELY underperformed. No one said it was her fault, either. She clearly had management conflict and personal issues going on, and it's done with. She's in a better place mentally and commercially now than she was then. It's a statement of fact, not shade. :Later: British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 ARTPOP's sales are pretty horrible. That's not even an insult to Gaga, she's doing very well with C2C. But compared to her previous records, that album SEVERELY underperformed. No one said it was her fault, either. She clearly had management conflict and personal issues going on, and it's done with. She's in a better place mentally and commercially now than she was then. It's a statement of fact, not shade. All of this is true. People need to stop being in denial Things are looking better with her management and the next era is surely going to be a much smoother ride :whitney: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 why do we still get as a serious source the numbers published by some random guy sitting at home behind his computer rather that using the numbers that record labels and OFFICIAL sources are giving us? And even if you want to take the numbers by that random guy, do you really think that the album hasn't sold even one copy since december 2013 (1.85M)? do you REALLY think it hasn't crossed the 2M mark WW? LMAO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 why do we still get as a serious source the numbers published by some random guy sitting at home behind his computer rather that using the numbers that record labels and OFFICIAL sources are giving us? And even if you want to take the numbers by that random guy, do you really think that the album hasn't sold even one copy since december 2013 (1.85M)? do you REALLY think it hasn't crossed the 2M mark WW? LMAO. That 1.85M number from Mediatraffic is actually a recent estimation of mine since the last number reported was 1.83M like 2 months ago..... So no, that Mediatraffic number isn't from 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 That 1.85M number from Mediatraffic is actually a recent estimation of mine since the last number reported was 1.83M like 2 months ago..... So no, that Mediatraffic number isn't from 2013. ArtRAVE ha global impact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotboy 1,700 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 why do we still get as a serious source the numbers published by some random guy sitting at home behind his computer rather that using the numbers that record labels and OFFICIAL sources are giving us? And even if you want to take the numbers by that random guy, do you really think that the album hasn't sold even one copy since december 2013 (1.85M)? do you REALLY think it hasn't crossed the 2M mark WW? LMAO. this. dont go by mediatraffic numbers. it was 2.3m ages ago with an actual source Remember that you are unique. Like everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddarko 144 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 why do we still get as a serious source the numbers published by some random guy sitting at home behind his computer rather that using the numbers that record labels and OFFICIAL sources are giving us? And even if you want to take the numbers by that random guy, do you really think that the album hasn't sold even one copy since december 2013 (1.85M)? do you REALLY think it hasn't crossed the 2M mark WW? LMAO. I love you. Do you know it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtyPoppy 0 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I mean Gaga better make them holiday promo discounts. That's what people are looking for, specially in the U.S. Plus they better perform Bang Bang or C2C @ Grammys!!! 😒😒 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Just take whatever number and source you want. As long as there's no SoundScan equivalent worldwide to track actual album sales (and not be unfairly mixed with shipments), the numbers would always differ. They've always been. It's either you trust a third party source like MediaTraffic, whose popularity is limited to online pop forums, or the numbers released by the labels, which are the ones being published in the mainstream. Either way, whether it's from UMG or from MediaTraffic, the sales of ARTPOP are nowhere near worthy to be bragged. The difference is small anyway that it's so trivial for a debate, unlike in the case of BTW where the minimum number was at 6M while the maximum was at 8M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 ARTPOP's sales are pretty horrible. That's not even an insult to Gaga, she's doing very well with C2C. But compared to her previous records, that album SEVERELY underperformed. No one said it was her fault, either. She clearly had management conflict and personal issues going on, and it's done with. She's in a better place mentally and commercially now than she was then. It's a statement of fact, not shade. Poor ARTPOP, it is actually one of my favorite albums, i feel bad for all the hate it got She shares Bang Bang with two other big singers and it's not the type of song that sells. Jessie J has been dissapointing anyway. She betrayed her music for commercial success and generic songs with her last two albums. She deserves to flop. :trootea: OMG, so true!! I stan for her on her Alive era, this time i'm so disappointed on her, i don't like her music this era, her 2 singles has been hideous, last week i just canceled my preorder of her album And honestly, i don't feel bad for her, that was her choice Will C2C rise with the PBS especial?? 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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