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[Neptune 156]

I already did several times but it seems that we have to insult each other for closing this crap thread that was OBVIOUSLY meant to create pointless flamebait from the beginning.

 

But yes, promote only kindness.

 

The hypocrisy of this community that always complain about the Gaga's haters but are the first to do the same with other artists, not all obviously, but a lot of ignorant and pressed people.

 

I sometimes wonder how some people don't get banned, given the amount of times I read and report flamebaiting posts from them.

[Valextra 58]

You brought up Britney, when she has absolutely nothing to do with the topic 

You often insult Mariah in her threads, and then you complain when people do the same in Britney thread, stay in silence at least. 

[Whispering 18,865]

 

Funny how you're as obsessed as i am with numbers yet in arguments like this you "tend" to forget where the music industry was in the 80s and the 90s and where it is now album sales and marketing wise.

 

 

 

Today its all about touring, streaming and digital sales, Ariana ; the most streamed artist in the entire world this year, on her way to sell out her entire arena tour and has the fastest selling digital single of all time.

 

 

 

 

That's why I compared chart placement and with albums and singles. When you do that, it still shows that Ariana isn't anywhere close to Mariah. Mariah's debut album was #1 for 11 weeks straight and was the highest selling album of that year. Compare that to either one of Ariana's albums. Ariana can't even end up with a top 10 album, much less the number one selling album of the year.

 

By the same comparison you are using, if streams and digital single sells were like they are now, back in Mariah's early career, she still would have blown Ariana out of the water...since Mariah's first five singles she released went straight to number one.

[Noel Kahn 2]

..This thread could have been very civil

[Sugarfall 3,723]

You often insult Mariah in her threads, and then you complain when people do the same in Britney thread, stay in silence at least. 

That's not true  I've praised Mariah many times, and I like a lot of her songs. I also think she is very funny. And I don't 'complain' when people bash Britney. 

[Jjang 2,262]

The fact that you keep doing STUPID comparisons with a legend like Mariah that have 25 years of career shows only how IMMATURE and IGNORANT musically you are.

You are the first that bring numbers in here.

And when it comes about numbers only MADONNA can be relate to the musical success of Mariah.

Ariana doesn't even have a only number one hit on the Billboard Hot100 with all her "success", and no, Adele proved that albums could still sell nowadays it's not about only streams.

Her album with 3 singles on the Hot100 barely sold 170k the first week, even Lana Del Rey without promo sold more the first week this year.

Let's see where Ariana will be in 25 years of career, and the condition of her voice that already it's not at her best during live.

Mariah had also healthy problems with her voice, she had nodules, so keep respect, because after 25 years of career even without voice she's still better of the awful stage presence of the other girl, for not talking about the others.

And another thing call me when Ariana will produce and write her songs for entire instead of using Max Martin 10 years old lyrics. 

 

The funny thing is that I even like Ariana but I can't at people like you that shows only MUSIC IGNORANCE. 

 

I'm a huge fan of MC, as a i stated before i own 90% of her discography. that's like saying we're not allowed to compare Gaga with Madonna.

 

 

 

Adele is literally the industry's only exception, you don't base an entire music industry and its statistics on special cases and exceptions.

 

 

 

Neither of us knows where Ariana will be in 25 years, so that argument cannot be any more invalid.

 

 

 

She could have easily gotten 3 #1's this year but she was blocked by massive hits such as 'Happy', 'Fancy' & 'Shake It Off'. which have blocked an extraordinary amount of songs this year from the top spot.

 

 

 

Ariana wrote & composed 'My Everything' & 'Best Mistake' and all of the bonus tracks on the album, plus she had additional lyrics on most of the songs on the album. same applies for the debut album.

 

There's no such thing as music ignorance, music is subjective.

 

 

 

Mariah is a legend. If she doesn't sell another album in her life, she will still be a legend.

 

Ariana isn't queen of anything at this point in her career. She can't even get a platinum album. They gave her album away for free last week and she was the opening musical artist on SNL and all she could push of her album was 16,000 units. The album never even made it into the top 10 on iTunes!

 

Even with her built in fanbase from Nickelodeon, Ariana has got a LONG WAY to go to even come remotely close to having the impact that Mariah had at the same point in her career or during her overall career.  All you have to do is look at album and single placements on the charts to know that Mariah was leaps and bounds ahead of Arianna by the time she was on her second album.

Ariana isn't the singer Mariah was. She isn't writing or producing all of her songs, like Mariah was doing from the start. And half of her songs that are hits aren't even solo projects.

 

Funny how if this was about Gaga VS. Madonna your opinions would instantly contradict the points you're making right now. me calling her "Queen Ari" =/= me saying Ariana is the queen of 'X' and 'Y'. learn the difference.

 

 

 

Ariana is the singer Mariah was, shall i post the Emotions video again? plus she's getting better on a yearly basis.

 

 

Ariana stated before that she does know how to produce music but is still learning, she just turned 21, give her the needed time.

[Laceface 2,964]

Some artists should retire gracefully when they still can. Mariah is probably beyond that point already.

[Valextra 58]

I sometimes wonder how some people don't get banned, given the amount of times I read and report flamebaiting posts from them.

 

Exactly, there are people that bring in this community only TRASH and HATE also towards Gaga, only to 'celebrate' others singers, I don't even understand why some people are in this community since they are here to talk only about others. 

 

And I don't care if I'm gonna take Warning Points for this, I can't stay silent in front of certain kind of IGNORANT and stupid behaviors.  

 

And again it's useless complain about the negative reviews, the internet haters, blogs, Perez Hilton and people in here have the same exactly attitude especially when it comes about other artists. 

 

The fact that a person opened a thread to harsh Mariah only to celebrate another singer shows how immature, ignorant, sad and empty are some people in here especially in intellect. 

[Jjang 2,262]

That's why I compared chart placement and with albums and singles. When you do that, it still shows that Ariana isn't anywhere close to Mariah. Mariah's debut album was #1 for 11 weeks straight and was the highest selling album of that year. Compare that to either one of Ariana's albums. Ariana can't even end up with a top 10 album, much less the number one selling album of the year.

 

By the same comparison you are using, if streams and digital single sells were like they are now, back in Mariah's early career, she still would have blown Ariana out of the water...since Mariah's first five singles she released went straight to number one.

 

In order to become the next "x" artist you don't need to duplicate his/her success, Gaga was being called then next Madonna pre - BTW, even though no female pop artist reached the amount of success and media hype Madonna had around the 80s and 90s.

 

 

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"this crap thread" was meant to be a joke, lose your stan mentality and learn how to look at things from a humorist point of view.

 

 

 

I'm probably a bigger MC fan than you are, the irony.

Exactly, there are people that bring in this community only TRASH and HATE also towards Gaga, only to 'celebrate' others singers, I don't even understand why some people are in this community since they are here to talk only about others. 

 

And I don't care if I'm gonna take Warning Points for this, I can't stay silent in front of certain kind of IGNORANT and stupid behaviors.  

 

And again it's useless complain about the negative reviews, the internet haters, blogs, Perez Hilton and people in here have the same exactly attitude especially when it comes about other artists. 

 

The fact that a person opened a thread to harsh Mariah only to celebrate another singer shows how immature, ignorant, sad and empty are some people in here especially in intellect. 

 

I didn't intend to make this thread a MC Vs. AG thread, it was just a joke, learn how to take it.

 

 

 

The drama queens here are just over the top.

 

stop whining over silly things and get a life.

[Neptune 156]

Exactly, there are people that bring in this community only TRASH and HATE also towards Gaga, only to 'celebrate' others singers, I don't even understand why some people are in this community since they are here to talk only about others. 

 

And I don't care if I'm gonna take Warning Points for this, I can't stay silent in front of certain kind of IGNORANT and stupid behaviors.  

 

And again it's useless complain about the negative reviews, the internet haters, blogs, Perez Hilton and people in here have the same exactly attitude especially when it comes about other artists. 

 

The fact that a person opened a thread to harsh Mariah only to celebrate another singer shows how immature, ignorant, sad and empty are some people in here especially in intellect.

 

I completely agree. And you know what? It's funny to see how arrogant and full of themselves they are, the extra support they get from other people like them and how, in the end, they are utterly wrong and make a fool of themselves.

 

Oh well, it's GGD after all.

[Whispering 18,865]

 

Funny how if this was about Gaga VS. Madonna your opinions would instantly contradict the points you're making right now. me calling her "Queen Ari" =/= me saying Ariana is the queen of 'X' and 'Y'. learn the difference.

 

 

 

Ariana is the singer Mariah was, shall i post the Emotions video again? plus she's getting better on a yearly basis.

 

 

Ariana stated before that she does know how to produce music but is still learning, she just turned 21, give her the needed time.

 

 

Funny how you've never seen me compare Madonna to Gaga in the way you are accusing me of. Learn when to accuse people of certain things. You must have me confused with someone else.

 

Ariana is not remotely close to being the singer Mariah was at the same age. You can post that same video you have posted countless times in multiple threads and it isn't going to make a difference. Ariana is still going to fall short of Mariah vocally.

 

At 21, Mariah had written ALL of her songs (not a handful) and produced her music. That's a side by side comparison.

[Valextra 58]

 

I'm a huge fan of MC, as a i stated before i own 90% of her discography. that's like saying we're not allowed to compare Gaga with Madonna.

 

 

 

Adele is literally the industry's only exception, you don't base an entire music industry and its statistics on special cases and exceptions.

 

 

 

Neither of us knows where Ariana will be in 25 years, so that argument cannot be any more invalid.

 

 

 

She could have easily gotten 3 #1's this year but she was blocked by massive hits such as 'Happy', 'Fancy' & 'Shake It Off'. which have blocked an extraordinary amount of songs this year from the top spot.

 

 

 

Ariana wrote & composed 'My Everything' & 'Best Mistake' and all of the bonus tracks on the album, plus she had additional lyrics on most of the songs on the album. same applies for the debut album.

 

There's no such thing as music ignorance, music is subjective.

 

 

RESPECT for an artist with the career of MARIAH CAREY is not SUBJECTIVE, it's OBJECTIVE, her achievements are DATES.

 

We're not taking about musical taste. 

 

You're comparing MARIAH'S VOCALS at 44 after 25 years of live and healthy problems with a 21 years old newble, at least compared with Mariah's vocals of the same age. 

 

There are a lot of others people who are selling better than Ariana not only Adele, especially if we compared debut numbers. 

 

2 tracks are not ALBUMS produced and written for entire.

 

This show that you're not a Mariah's fan, but a pressed hater otherwise you wouldn't open such a stupid thread.

 

Mariah's voice is not the same? What a surprise.

We all know her condition and her fans KNOW her HEALTHY ISSUES, with NODULES.

There wasn't the need to open a thread only to bash and denigrate her, especially for the fact that is still one of the most famous and successful singer of all time, thing that I can't say about Ariana now, that in a year could disappear like it happened to a lot of other singers, at least stay in silence and show a bit of respect. 

 

With this I'm really done, I didn't want to reply in this thread because I didn't wanna put myself at the same low level, I reported it MORE TIMES, but obviously it wasn't enough. 

[Jjang 2,262]

RESPECT for an artist with the career of MARIAH CAREY is not SUBJECTIVE, it's OBJECTIVE, her achievements are DATES.

 

We're not taking about musical taste. 

 

You're comparing MARIAH'S VOCALS at 44 after 25 years of live and healthy problems with a 21 years old newble, at least compared with Mariah's vocals of the same age. 

 

There are a lot of others people who are selling better than Ariana not only Adele, especially if we compared debut numbers. 

 

2 tracks are not ALBUMS produced and written for entire.

 

This show that you're not a Mariah's fan, but a pressed hater otherwise you wouldn't open such a stupid thread.

 

Mariah's voice is not the same? What a surprise.

We all know her condition and her fans KNOW her HEALTHY ISSUES, with NODULES.

There wasn't the need to open a thread only to bash and denigrate her, especially for the fact that is still one of the most famous and successful singer of all time, thing that I can't say about Ariana now, that in a year could disappear like it happened to a lot of other singers, at least stay in silence and show a bit of respect. 

 

With this I'm really done, I didn't want to reply in this thread because I didn't wanna put myself at the same low level, I reported it MORE TIMES, but obviously it wasn't enough. 

 

I already stated i acknowledge her achievements though? maybe its time for you to read and comprehend before you make wrong statements.

 

 

 

If you haven't caught up to it by now, i was joking the first few pages of the thread, until you drama queens stepped in.

 

but yeah, don't reply! you one high class of a person!

Funny how you've never seen me compare Madonna to Gaga in the way you are accusing me of. Learn when to accuse people of certain things. You must have me confused with someone else.

 

Ariana is not remotely close to being the singer Mariah was at the same age. You can post that same video you have posted countless times in multiple threads and it isn't going to make a difference. Ariana is still going to fall short of Mariah vocally.

 

At 21, Mariah had written ALL of her songs (not a handful) and produced her music. That's a side by side comparison.

*"Not remotely close to being the singer Mariah was"

 

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[Valextra 58]

 

 

The drama queens here are just over the top.

 

stop whining over silly things and get a life.

 

 

Said the person with 22k messages in a Lady Gaga board.

The one that needs to stop and get a life in here is you.

Stop trash this LADY GAGA board, with your rude, superior and ignorant attitude, everybody noticed it and not only in this thread. 

 

I already stated i acknowledge her achievements though? 

 

 

The only thing that you STATED is your IGNORANCE and RUDE attitude. 

[Jjang 2,262]

Said the person with 22k messages in a Lady Gaga board.

The one that needs to stop and get a life in here is you.

Stop trash this LADY GAGA board, with your rude, superior and ignorant attitude, everybody noticed it and not only in this thread. 

*Divide that with 3 years and you'll get a daily average of 20 posts per day.

 

*Making a harmless joke =/= being rude.

 

*Its time for you to open your eyes and look more into the world, its so much more fun to take a joke instead of turning it into an argument, relax, take it easy. I'm not wishing death upon your family.

 

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