Whispering 18,865 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 again you CANNOT use your family/friends and more as reference. It doesn't mean THIS group of people liked it that the GP overall likes it also I would like to add that the overall decline of sales also affected it Charli XCX, on 01 Oct 2014 - 22:19, said: I encountered so many people at my school too who do know about her new music and album and the hate her, I don't even live in the US Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I know that I did that sis, but I was giving djbuffon an example that i could also use my own entourage as example, it doesn't represent the whole GP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 First of all, can you please stop calling me sis? Especially in the context you're using it, it's very condescending. Yes, I do believe that the epic media backlash had something to do with it. From my experience, I don't believe that many people had even heard the music from the album, let alone formed an opinion on it. And many still haven't. Usually when I asked people about it, they would say something like, "Didn't listen to it, but I read that it wasn't doing too well?" That kind of talk in the press started when "Applause" dropped, and isn't a serendipitous environment for an album to be released in at all. And yes, I think the album is much stronger than others that were met with more financial success (Prism, for example). I don't trust sales receipts, and I don't think that should be used to scale quality. I mean, the latest Transformers film was a humongous success, that doesn't mean it was any good. And just to be clear, I think your perception on the album is off. I don't believe the album was her "talking about art" and I don't believe it was any more artsy than her previous work. Thematically, I believe the album is about her straddling between artistic truth and global fame. And sonically, I believe that, yes, there was considerable imagination put in the songwriting and production of the album. I could go into more depth into why the album is quality, but it's clear that we're gonna have to parts ways on this. sis... You are using your own entourage to prove your point again? and again IMO ARTPOP is VERY weak both the quality side and theme side. I wasn't comparing sales to quality, I never do that, I don't judge music base don how much they sell. Hell my fave album is True Romance by Charli XCX which sold 17k only stop labeling me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,120 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 sis... You are using your own entourage to prove your point again? and again IMO ARTPOP is VERY weak both the quality side and theme side. I wasn't comparing sales to quality, I never do that, I don't judge music base don how much they sell. Hell my fave album is True Romance by Charli XCX which sold 17k only stop labeling me To prove it? No, there is no way to prove such a thing. To point out something that I found interesting amongst music fans that I know personally? Sure. But you can read it however you wish. I'm not labeling you anything particular, that statement wasn't even directed at you. BUT you are arguing that the reason ARTPOP didn't sell well is due to quality, no? You are equating the sales to the music, no? But you know what, the fact that you blatantly disregarded when I asked you politely to change your tactic in addressing me speaks volumes about your maturity. I think we're done here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 To prove it? No, there is no way to prove such a thing. To point out something that I found interesting amongst music fans that I know personally? Sure. But you can read it however you wish. I'm not labeling you anything particular, that statement wasn't even directed at you. BUT you are arguing that the reason ARTPOP didn't sell well is due to quality, no? You are equating the sales to the music, no? But you know what, the fact that you blatantly disregarded when I asked you politely to change your tactic in addressing me speaks volumes about your maturity. I think we're done here. and again, you ARE labeling me by saying I'm immature, I'm sorry but I use sis because I'm used to it, get over it And yes, I think AP didn't sell as well as it should have because of the music, but I don't think everytime an album sells well or not is because of the quality which is what you were saying about me. NOW we're done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,120 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 and again, you ARE labeling me by saying I'm immature You earned it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 You earned it. Sis you've labeled me even before my 'sis' comment, which you seem to take a bit too much seriously. Besides I said we're done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,120 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Sis you've labeled me even before my 'sis' comment, which you seem to take a bit too much seriously. Besides I said we're done. Then why are you still- never mind. lol I didn't judge you at all before that, as we've never once interacted before. If you felt judged at any point, which is never my intention, then I apologize. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muh 144 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 sis, where did I say DWUW underperformed? I said it performed well especially without a music video. Stop, the GP doesn't just stop buying someone's music ONLY because of the media and the anti-gaga feeling, I'd like to remind you that gaga always had a big amount of haters creating an anti-gaga atmosphere. The fact that the media was bringing her down+the music+the decline of sales overall made the album underperform. now let's not, again where did i say DWUW underperformed? and you're using you're own OPINION about the quality yet not everyone has the same opinion sis. I personally thought it was a HUGE downgrade compared to TF/TFM/BTW so stop +DWUW still had some amazing promo. With a video the album still wouldn't have sold that much more, it wouldn't have crossed the 270k imo Now let's not once again, I never said you said DWUW underpeformed... I was just making an example, one of the reasons the album didn't sell that well. DWUW it's one of her best singles and it didn't even go Top 10 in the US, The reason was becuase the gp we're not there for Gaga and the lack of a mv. And YOUR OPINION is the album wasn't that good compare to her other albums SO STOP. If you really think The Fame is better than ARTPOP then I will just pray for you sis, that's the only thin left to do for you :reductive: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAYA.core 813 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 it may have all gone and come quickly. but, i don't know she's very independent and nothing really efficient with her promotions and her update in still being a hype ╰☆╮𝙸𝚐𝚗𝚘𝚛𝚎 𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚑𝚊𝚝𝚛𝚎𝚍 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚌𝚛𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚌𝚒𝚜𝚖. 𝙻𝚒𝚟𝚎 𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚠𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚌𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚎... ☆╮JOINED November 25 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 HONESTLY, the ARTPOP promo was great. Let's not act as if Gaga wasn't everywhere some weeks, at least from August 2013 till December 2013. I mean she had the youtube music awards (which sent a email to like tons of people to watch her performance which ended up making Dope a top 10 single), SNL on the ARTPOP release week, The Voice with Xtina, loads of Radio appearances, some ITunes promo, the ITunes festival which ITunes had links t watch her performance all of September if I remember well and loads of radio promo, some Promo in Japan and more. Also the ARTPOP cover revelation in times square and the clearchannel deal all over the world. The promo simply wasn't effective, why? idk, the GP just didn't like AP, but she was everywhere. I do agree that she lacked Australian and European promo, but I don't get why people say Gaga didn't promote enough. I don't think the promo was the problem, i think the problem was simply the music Totally agree This era had all these spots: VMAs 2 GMA appearances Today show Youtube music awards Ellen interview Jimmy Kimmel interview Tonight Show performance David Letterman performance AMAs SNL X factor UK Jingle Ball festival The Voice USA ITunes festival Music Station SMAPxSMAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Now let's not once again, I never said you said DWUW underpeformed... I was just making an example, one of the reasons the album didn't sell that well. DWUW it's one of her best singles and it didn't even go Top 10 in the US, The reason was becuase the gp we're not there for Gaga and the lack of a mv. And YOUR OPINION is the album wasn't that good compare to her other albums SO STOP. If you really think The Fame is better than ARTPOP then I will just pray for you sis, that's the only thin left to do for you :reductive: Do you think you're shading using this last line? You're attacking an OPINION which is SUBJECTIIVE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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