mostro 0 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 You used Disick's quote that Sam should "use his platform a little" to say we're forcing sam to the forefront of the movement... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 You used Disick's quote that Sam should "use his platform a little" to say we're forcing sam to the forefront of the movement... Nope. Go read again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Die 1,864 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 No-one said you were, Sam. :Toofunny: Nod if you wanna make love with the enemy. ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDisick 1 Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 a simple tweet that would say that lgbt kids make up 40% of the homeless youth population 'for example ' is making him apart of this gay movement?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disregard 50 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Honestly, the gay community was never going to claim him anyway because he's not conventionally attractive enough by Grindr standards. For as much as we talk about inclusiveness...he's exactly the type of gay guy who gets overlooked because he's not twinkish enough , skinny enough or muscular enough, or any of the other bullet points that are coveted by the young gay "community." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostro 0 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 a simple tweet that would say that lgbt kids make up 40% of the homeless youth population 'for example ' is making him apart of this gay movement?? oh god think of what it would do to his career if he reached out to disenfranchised people in his own community Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the frog 1,860 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I don't understand why Riff Raff didn't get more backlash from that. Is it simply that nobody knows who Riff Raff is? probably. he's treated as an irrelevant twitter troll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 a simple tweet that would say that lgbt kids make up 40% of the homeless youth population 'for example ' is making him apart of this gay movement?? oh god think of what it would do to his career if he reached out to disenfranchised people in his own community Do you guys get this upset when straight celebrities don't tweet about LGBT youth? Or is it just when they're gay that you feel they have an obligation to tweet about that? My point this whole time has been: Why can't you just treat him like every other celebrity? Why do you have to make it about his s-xuality? If he doesn't want to be the "gay singer", that's a respectable decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostro 0 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Do you guys get this upset when straight celebrities don't tweet about LGBT youth? Or is it just when they're gay that you feel they have an obligation to tweet about that? My point this whole time has been: Why can't you just treat him like every other celebrity? Why do you have to make it about his s-xuality? If he doesn't want that to be the focus of his career, that's his choice and it should be respected. It sounds like you're saying gay people shouldn't have an obligation to acknowledge and help other gay people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 It sounds like you're saying gay people shouldn't have an obligation to acknowledge and help other gay people? No. They really shouldn't. Not unless they have a passion for gay advocacy. I think it's bull**** to claim that just because anyone is anything, they have an obligation to be an advocate for those people. Because he's gay, he loses autonomy over his choices? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 No one is saying his expectations are to go to every pride rally and be the new face of the HRC It's simply an acknowledgement that you have the power to affect people now, people of your own community who could have a new role model in you. It all boils down to just how really blasé and apathetic he was about it. Many gay youth feel so disparaged because they have no one they can really look up to. Now here is someone who is starting to rise up in a big cultural medium who's basically taking the route of, "well I was lucky enough to have welcoming parents, sucks for you guys I guess. You would all make me uncomfortable if I mentioned you here and then." He's made a big personality change with his new sense of fame and it just sends a message to youth saying "fake it to make it, don't really be who you are cause it might make some people feel gross." Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 .its crazy we have all these pop girls who does and not even a gay himself Because Pop girls aren't going to get much backlash in today's Pop world. They get welcomed and celebrated by the gay community and radio PDs could care less that the girls are courting the LGBT community. They could care less if the Pop girls are gay or bis-xual themselves...cause that's just "hawt". What are the chances of a bunch of middle aged, male, straight Program Directors feeling the same about gay male artists? Do you think they think it is "hawt" that a male artist is gay or bis-xual? Where is all the support for gay male artists in their own community? Did you know that Adam Lambert has been very vocal and active and that his last album was full of songs for the LGBT community? Where is the grand support for him? How does the gay community pay him back for being a vocal supporter and a spokesperson? Did they all run to buy his album or are they too busy obsessing over the straight pop girls and buying their albums and attending their concerts? It's pretty obvious why it is easier and of more benefit for a straight female pop girl to wave the flag in the music world, than a gay male artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostro 0 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Because he's gay, he loses autonomy over his choices? No. Does having an obligation make you lose autonomy over your choices? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordDisick 1 Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 his image feels so contrived,remember his twitter before he got big? then his label took over and deleted everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Does having an obligation make you lose autonomy over your choices? Yes. You lose the choice to say no. You lose freedom. But I mean, where do the obligations stop? He's white. Should he be an advocate for white power? He's male. Should he tweet about men's rights? The thing is if he's passionate about LGBT rights, I hope and pray that he speaks out. But to say he should speak out simply because he identifies with that group is ridiculous! He should speak out about whatever he is passionate about. That may be prison reform. Recycling. The relationship between black women and feminism. Whatever he is passionate about, I hope he uses his platform to inform people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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