Don't you think ARTPOP studio album hasn't got much life?

[Miley 5,006]

I agree to 100%

I only listen to DWUW, Fashion! and Applause. The rest have no souls or deep in the production as her previous songs/albums sadly. 

[DriverMonster 10]

Funny how every one is flipping now. I've thought the same from the first day. BTW is million times better.

[Computer 10,973]

Sexxx Dreams actually had the potential to bring Gaga back to the top, but they really ruined it with those (you were in my).

The changes to Sexxx Dreams were very jarring to me.  Every time I heard the "you were in my" I thought, NO, NO, NO this is wrong!

 

And I was really sad about how Swine's production turned out.  It was my favorite after Swinefest.  Now, I don't enjoy it.

 

Swinefest was everything and I have to agree the album doesn't always hold up in comparison.

 

Don't even get me started on Dope replacing IWBWY

[Miley 5,006]

The changes to Sexxx Dreams were very jarring to me.  Every time I heard the "you were in my" I thought, NO, NO, NO this is wrong!

 

And I was really sad about how Swine's production turned out.  It was my favorite after Swinefest.  Now, I don't enjoy it.

 

Swinefest was everything and I have to agree the album doesn't always hold up in comparison.

 

Don't even get me started on Dope replacing IWBWY

 

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They MURDERED "IWBWY". I don't like DOPE at all but I loved IWBWY :(

[Spyro 8,438]

Agree with this so much.  I knew the Swinefest thing was a bad idea from the moment she announced it.  But, we got 8 flawless performances, so not all is lost.  These days, I only listen to G.U.Y., Sexxx Dreams (though I'm still pissed at the changes), the title track, and Fashion!.. the rest is... what she said in 'Judas', "ew".

[Neptune 156]

I do agree with some of your points. And I've thought about this too. What I believe is that it is DJWS's and Interscope's fault. Why? Well to me DJWS is able to make good music, but not GREAT music. He's very versatile, and he knows how to make a decent pop song... But they don't stand out, at least in their studio version. His sound is predictable, too clean, too mechanical, which makes it sound soulless. And then you have Interscope. Since Gaga leaked the original version of Aura, I have this feeling that they heard the album and they thought it was too crazy and that Gaga needed a safe bet, so they made them tone it down. To me, that's the reason why Gaga leaked Aura, because it was perfect in that demo version, and then what we got in the album was a much toned down, boring version. Why would she leak her song if she believed it wasn't finished? I remember she said the album version of Aura was "her vision and Zedd's" and they thought it sounded better that way. So why would she leak something that was half finished?

[Koreku 2,387]

I remember listening to the album version of swine for the first time and sitting there like 

 

[XoXoJoanneGaga 629]

I do agree with some of your points. And I've thought about this too. What I believe is that it is DJWS's and Interscope's fault. Why? Well to me DJWS is able to make good music, but not GREAT music. He's very versatile, and he knows how to make a decent pop song... But they don't stand out, at least in their studio version. His sound is predictable, too clean, too mechanical, which makes it sound soulless. And then you have Interscope. Since Gaga leaked the original version of Aura, I have this feeling that they heard the album and they thought it was too crazy and that Gaga needed a safe bet, so they made them tone it down. To me, that's the reason why Gaga leaked Aura, because it was perfect in that demo version, and then what we got in the album was a much toned down, boring version. Why would she leak her song if she believed it wasn't finished? I remember she said the album version of Aura was "her vision and Zedd's" and they thought it sounded better that way. So why would she leak something that was half finished?

She was lying lol. If she thought the album version sounded better she wouldn't be performing the demo vocals live.

 

I don't know if it was Interscope who forced her to water down the songs, it's possible that she herself wanted to make it safe. I think her head wasn't in the right place during the last few months in the studio, and there was definitely conflict between her/her management/the label.

 

And your description of DJWS is dead-on. He's very creative and I like that all his songs sound different from one another, but he can't lend any emotion or depth to his productions. His work on BTW was so much better because it had Fernando co-production.

[GagaUnderYou 4,981]

I love it, but I also love Swinefest as well brings back memories 

[StrawberryBlond 14,865]

I have to say, it's still got life in it for me, but that's probably because I didn't become all-consumed by it like her previous work because it's not my most favourite album from her. But it's always growing on me, so I keep re-visiting it occasionally, meaning it's always there to challenge me again. The thing that ultimately bugged me is that she gave away too much too soon by singing all those songs at Swinefest and then releasing promo singles on top of that. I'm old school in the sense that I like to listen to albums in their entirety with only the preceding singles to go on. I only listen to promo singles when they're by general artists who aren't my faves (makes my album reviewing much quicker in the long run). If they are by my faves, it just ruins the album experience for me as I've heard so much by that point that there's not much to look forward to on release day. Dope and Gypsy were the only songs I hadn't heard in the run up to the album's release because I'd just had enough of the track reveal overload by that point. It truly was a surprising moment to listen to the album and release that Dope was IWBWY with different lyrics and was about the only surprise I did get.

 

By putting out so many tracks in their entirety before the album, Gaga could have put off a lot of potential buyers who would have otherwise bought it blindly. When an artist puts so many tracks into the public domain, it tends to make the public less inclined to buy the album as they feel they've already heard the best of it and don't see the point in buying now. I think that's why I ultimately felt a bit anti climatic once I'd listened to the album in full: I'd already heard 9/15 songs (technically 10, as Dope is the same music as IWBWY). Very little new work to experience and the new stuff (G.U.Y, Donatella, Fashion, MJH) ultimately left me rather cold and disappointed. As it turned out, Fashion was the only one that I didn't grow to like more, but at the time, it was the definition of anti climax. For those who checked out every live performance/promo single she gave, they would have heard 11/15 tracks. It must have made the album quite difficult to plough through. When Lana Del Rey released Ultraviolence, I made sure I only listened to her one and only official single beforehand even though she released 3 promo singles - I was determined that it wasn't going to be ruined for me like ARTPOP was. And because I went in with basically no expectations, it was an amazing album listening experience. ARTPOP would have induced the same feeling if Gaga hadn't spoiled us so much before release.

 

With her new album, I hope Gaga just does it the old fashioned way - 2 singles prior to album's release, no more, no less. You have to have that mystery or you're just going to leave people diappointed. And probably lose a good few thousand sales.

[PopBitch 1,218]

Aura could have been one of her best songs of all time, truthfully.  The most beautiful chorus of all time, the lyrics, the vocals singing do you want to see me naked, lover, do you wanna peek underneath the cover, do you wanna see the girl who lives behind the aura, perfection, just perfection.  The purposefully ugly vocals in places was never going to make it a classic.  She didn't have to make all of the vocals beautiful, (I get what she's doing)  but she didn't have to make her vocals so ugly in places for the album.  There's a way of differentiating and singing it oddly without singing so harshly in an ugly tone.  I don't listen to anybody's music to have that.   It might be cool for a performance but day in and day out listening to on an album I'm not going to keep gravitating towards it.  Too bad.  I think that song had the most potential of any song on the album to be Gaga-different but brilliant, genius, and is so close to being perfection.   I love the spoken intro and the ha-ha-ha.  But the vocals in "Enigma popstar," etc., are ugly.  And the nonhuman "ARTPOP" reference is just stupid thrown in.

 

Still, that song shows me still how brilliant Gaga can be and what a beautiful voice she has and a unique song melodically with the way it twists and turns.  I remember being so intrigued when I heard the demo and at Swinefest, the opening.

 

And Sexxx Dreams, her vocals are to die for, but the album version just is lacking something.   I remember being stunned at my reaction to it, because hearing it before the album came out it was thrilling.   I thought it was going to be my favorite off of it.   Maybe it was a demo  I heard or something (I can't even remember now) but it was a fuller sound and more energetic in instrumentation or something.   I know I loved it in Swinefest, but was there a demo out before?  It's still a pretty song on the album and I adjusted, but something about it before was a little more thrilling.

[Neptune 156]

She was lying lol. If she thought the album version sounded better she wouldn't be performing the demo vocals live.

 

I don't know if it was Interscope who forced her to water down the songs, it's possible that she herself wanted to make it safe. I think her head wasn't in the right place during the last few months in the studio, and there was definitely conflict between her/her management/the label.

 

And your description of DJWS is dead-on. He's very creative and I like that all his songs sound different from one another, but he can't lend any emotion or depth to his productions. His work on BTW was so much better because it had Fernando co-production.

 

That's what I thought too. Why would she leak it if it wasn't good to her standards? She was clearly trying to hide the problems with her label/management.

 

I doubt it was her who wanted to water down the whole album/Era. Why? She produced Venus. And Venus, imo, is the strangest and most interesting song on the album. It's weird, it screams Gaga, and she was really inspired by it, judging by the photoshoot she did with Nick. She was pissed when it was cancelled as second single. She was all Venus during the DWUW promotion, she couldn't give two ****s about that song at that time. That's why I believe it was not her fault. She scared many people with BTW, and Interscope was afraid she would scare even more if ARTPOP was something in the style of Venus or Aura's demo. To me, they made her tone down the whole album.

[Voltaic 25]

This is exactly how I feel about ARTPOP, it's so organic-less. Born This Way and past albums felt really good and really settled an atmosphere. ARTPOP feels dull and empty in comparison. With ARTPOP it's like she really wanted each song to last 3 minutes. (UGHH!) And in general it's very messy.

[ARTPOPisaChoice 946]

Yeah, I honestly feel like the album she was so excited for in 2012 is not the same thing that we got. All we can do now is move on, she has a new manager, hopefully they will let Gaga do her thing and not try to sterilize the album into lifelessness.

[witchcocktor 1,438]

Swine was butchered. And that was the song that mattered the MOST to me.