Essence 155 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 hence a genius. his songs, like it or not, will stand the test of time in pop history. He's not a ****ing genius lol. He's not innovative and certainly doesn't display an exceptional amount of intelligence. That's a disgrace to the word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 He's not a ****ing genius lol. He's not innovative and certainly doesn't display an exceptional amount of intelligence. That's a disgrace to the word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarfall 3,723 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 the absolute irony Well sorry for my bad English And I really do think that he is a great producer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Oh and by the way he's not a genius at all, just a good business man who can cater to the masses. For one to become the most successful songwriter in pop music history, without ever being the singer, he must then be a genius in his own right. Max Martin's the only songwriter who has written/co-written for others at least one #1 hit in three consecutive decades. He literally made the late 1990s teen pop sound w/ Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears and even opened the door for other producers and songwriters like Dr. Luke to top the mainstream by the mid/late 2000s. He's basically a star-maker whose list of clients testifies on how great he is in coming up with good-to-great pop songs in the past 17 years or so. His critics say his works are 'basic', and yet among all the songwriters in the world, all these years, he's still among the top sought-after from a wide range of artists and mainstays of Mainstream Top 40 radio. If it's so easy to write pop gems, then the world should have thousands of known and sought-after songwriters by now, other than Max Martin and his team. The fact that his music is being branded as "generic" already solidifies the status of his music as an industry standard within pop music. That alone is a working of a genius to me. Because if he's not, his name should have been long dropped from the top of the pop stars' list of most preferred producers/songwriters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence 155 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 For one to become the most successful songwriter in pop music history, without ever being the singer, he must then be a genius in his own right. Max Martin's the only songwriter who has written/co-written for others at least one #1 hit in three consecutive decades. He literally made the late 1990s teen pop sound w/ Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears and even opened the door for other producers and songwriters like Dr. Luke to top the mainstream by the mid/late 2000s. He's basically a star-maker whose list of clients testifies on how great he is in coming up with good-to-great pop songs in the past 17 years or so. His critics say his works are 'basic', and yet among all the songwriters in the world, all these years, he's still among the top sought-after from a wide range of artists and mainstays of Mainstream Top 40 radio. If it's so easy to write pop gems, then the world should have thousands of known and sought-after songwriters by now, other than Max Martin and his team. The fact that his music is being branded as "generic" already solidifies the status of his music as an industry standard within pop music. That alone is a working of a genius to me. Because if he's not, his name should have been long dropped from the top of the pop stars' list of most preferred producers/songwriters. A genius is a person who displays exceptional intellectual ability, creativity, or originality, He may be massively successful and influential, but I refuse to call him a genius just because of what he has achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 A genius is a person who displays exceptional intellectual ability, creativity, or originality, He may be massively successful and influential, but I refuse to call him a genius just because of what he has achieved. Exceptional songwriting ability. The guy has been awarded 7 times by ASCAP for "Songwriter of the Year". If his songwriting is so mediocre and nowhere near "exceptional", he wouldn't be this successful and influential all these years. As for creativity and originality, he's partly responsible for the revival of teen pop / bubblegum pop in the late 1990s and then pop/rock in the mid-to-late 2000s. I would call his music as original because I haven't heard his songwriting style before his rise in the late 1990s. Like the OP said, it's easy to detect which music is written or produced by Max Martin and/or his team these days. And it's likely because he has successfully left his own mark in pop music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 If it's so easy to write pop gems, then the world should have thousands of known and sought-after songwriters by now, other than Max Martin and his team. The fact that his music is being branded as "generic" already solidifies the status of his music as an industry standard within pop music.Very true. Before something becomes "generic" someone has to invent the style and make it popular. There is no eternal safe formula for pop success.The sound of BOMT in 1999 and I Kissed a Girl in 2008 was very fresh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty3009 232 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 And these are just the number 1's. He's achieved an insane level of success. While he's not going to be the critics' darling, there's no denying his ear and skill at crafting memorable pop gems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausofmike 127 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I see no lies in the OP. Gaga chooses to work with horrible producers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Max Martin is for sure talented and good when it comes about Pop music. His best works are the Britney ones for sure. His problem lately is that he gave basically the same song to several singers, and it seems that they all have the same song this is why he became kind of basic, like it happened to RedOne after the success of 'Just Dance', 'Poker Face' and 'Bad Romance', and Timbaland before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,182 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 He's a great producer without a doubt and unstoppable I may add. Dark Horse is nowhere to be "generic" at the moment, same as California Gurls, Teenage Dream or ET when they were released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKorix 156 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Lord so many pressed people lol as if it's so easy to create huge #1's that become part of pop culture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miley 5,006 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Best producer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky 39 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I wonder what Katy would do without him... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo 1,898 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 All those songs couldn't be any more commercial and cookie cutter. Good for him, though, he's doing his job right, writing for the GP and making money for labels. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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