Lady Gaga has become bored, lazy and complacent

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If she was tired she shouldn't have put the album out in the first place. Of course people are going to be bragging about promo in an album era. 

She had to put it out, she was under deadline and contractual obligations. She was clearly exhausted throughout the whole era, she wasn't herself. She even said at one point she was tired of promoting.

[Tokyo Rose 1,475]

People tend to forget Gaga had problems with creative freedom and management

Little Managers need to HOP OFF her dick. Go stan for Katy or something if you want mediocre success.

 

Everyone has just been a b!tch about this era because not everything Gaga had planned actually happened for this era.

 

With the first three albums everything went smoothly so this was different.

[eifulien 2,276]

It's so frustrating when people imply Gaga isn't doing enough, or not doing something right. Her music and art is her job. Think of how most people do their jobs. They clock in 40 hours a week, then clock out and leave their work at work so they can go focus on their personal time, social life, etc. They do what's expected of them, and maybe they do it very well, and some of us really excel, but at the end of the day people recognize that it's okay for employees to clock out. 

 

Many Gaga fans, and even members of the GP, don't recognize that it's okay for Gaga to clock out sometimes. It's okay that she's not working herself to the bone to give us everything we want. Many of us would complain and ask for raises and talk about how unfair it is if our employers started asking us to do half as much as Gaga does (the stress and inconsistent sleep/eating schedule of touring alone would be enough to make a lot of us want to crawl into a hole and never come out!). 

 

It's also frustrating when people pull the "Gaga can't release _____ or do _____ but she can post all these pictures of Asia on Twitter?!"

There's always more going on underneath the surface. She has friends and family with whom she has a social life- she cares about them, and they have life events and situations she is most likely involved with. She's gone through legal disputes with multiple people. She has partnerships with organizations and people that she most likely communicates with. She has a record label to set things up with. Working on her album with Tony. Perhaps putting things together for her own next album. Etc. 

 

How many of us go to school, have a full time job, etc. and find OURSELVES saying "I don't have time for ____" ? Why do we allow ourselves to say "I don't have time," but judge Gaga for the things she allots her time to, not truly knowing what goes on behind the scenes for her?

 

Tell'em sis! Just because Gaga is a superstar doesn't mean she's a superhuman of some sort. If so many of you need Gaga the Hero go to a Marvel fan site.... 

[holy scheisse 20,342]

so many ungrateful little sh*ts

[holy scheisse 20,342]

I agree that we should respect Gaga's health and be understanding if she needs to take a break for herself. That's fine and completely reasonable. However, she is also a professional who has obligations to her record label and to her career and feeling stressed or tired is no excuse for not giving 100 percent when she chooses to start a new era. That has arguably been the biggest issue with ARTPOP - I don't care what was going on behind the scenes or in her personal life, the execution and promotion of this album was hugely bungled and that ultimately lies upon her shoulders. I understand that she probably felt under pressure from her fans and label, but she's powerful and well-respected enough in the industry that she could've definitely requested a 6 month to a year extension for the next album if she needed more time to recover from the hip injury and the BTWB. It's obvious from the production of the album that she wasn't as involved as she usually is - using entirely pre made instrumental backing tracks, etc. Furthermore, she also publicly made some really childish and immature moves like personally leaking Aura - hugely inappropriate and disrespectful to her label. Finally, the fact that she basically disappeared from the public eye 2 or 3 months after the album came out shows her unwillingness to promote the album further.

 

Gaga basically receives all of the credit and huge financial rewards (hundreds of millions of dollars by now) when one of her albums does well. However, that also means that, as a leader and an artist, she should be prepared to shoulder all of the responsibility and blame when an album doesn't do well. The buck stops with Lady Gaga.

 

all of these statements are just your opinion that you guise as fact? you have no idea what goes on in lady gaga's personal and business life you are just a fan

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all of these statements are just your opinion that you guise as fact? you have no idea what goes on in lady gaga's personal and business life you are just a fan

 

Do you have any more information than I do? Are you more than "just a fan"? The whole point of Gaga Thoughts is that we speculate about and discuss Gaga's work and her career. None of us (unless we work directly with her) know exactly what goes on.

[aaronyoji 2,007]

She dropped the ball with ARTPOP, anyone denying that is simply delusional. She's not immune from criticism, not everybody will like her music so don't get all butthurt because of that. Personally i think she tried to take a short cut with ARTPOP and that to me constitutes a certain degree of laziness.

 

Let's hope she can get herself back together and release something that we all know she can do. Even if it means not being number 1 on the charts.

what do u mean shortcut tho? 

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what do u mean shortcut tho? 

 

I think he's referring to using pre-made instrumental tracks for album songs (eg. Donatella) and that sort of thing.

[aaronyoji 2,007]

I agree that we should respect Gaga's health and be understanding if she needs to take a break for herself. That's fine and completely reasonable. However, she is also a professional who has obligations to her record label and to her career and feeling stressed or tired is no excuse for not giving 100 percent when she chooses to start a new era. That has arguably been the biggest issue with ARTPOP - I don't care what was going on behind the scenes or in her personal life, the execution and promotion of this album was hugely bungled and that ultimately lies upon her shoulders. I understand that she probably felt under pressure from her fans and label, but she's powerful and well-respected enough in the industry that she could've definitely requested a 6 month to a year extension for the next album if she needed more time to recover from the hip injury and the BTWB. It's obvious from the production of the album that she wasn't as involved as she usually is - using entirely pre made instrumental backing tracks, etc. Furthermore, she also publicly made some really childish and immature moves like personally leaking Aura - hugely inappropriate and disrespectful to her label. Finally, the fact that she basically disappeared from the public eye 2 or 3 months after the album came out shows her unwillingness to promote the album further.

 

Gaga basically receives all of the credit and huge financial rewards (hundreds of millions of dollars by now) when one of her albums does well. However, that also means that, as a leader and an artist, she should be prepared to shoulder all of the responsibility and blame when an album doesn't do well. The buck stops with Lady Gaga.

dont you think these two statements contradict each other? obviously shes been wanting to go into a different direction than what we initially got with ARTPOP and hearing the demo version of aura for the first time through a leak is how gaga wanted to really start things off. her split with her manager, her sxsw and bbc culture show interview definitely signify her contempt with the corporate music machine, all these points shes made about creative rebellion, those dont sound like the things you say when you're not invested in an album. 

 

and disrespectful to her label? get real. fans need to stop looking at things from the label's perspective because its really damaging the way we view music and art. the labels need artists a lot more than the artist needs them. 

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and disrespectful to her label? get real. fans need to stop looking at things from the label's perspective because its really damaging the way we view music and art. the labels need artists a lot more than the artist needs them. 

 

Artists don't really need record labels? 

 

Get real. If there weren't record labels, Lady Gaga would still be dancing with Lady Starlight and hawking demo CDs in seedy Lower East Side dives.

 

Fans love to hate on labels, but they completely ignore the important role that they play in music. The music business is ultimately a BUSINESS, and labels help guide and support artists like Gaga so they can achieve critical and commercial success within that framework. For instance, Gaga has never actually paid for the production of her albums - her label, from the very beginning, paid for and helped arrange for her to work with top producers and other production personnel. Once the album is complete, the label makes millions of CDs and ships them to stores everywhere, arranges for an iTunes release, schedules promotional appearances like at the VMAs and Good Morning America, and works with radio stations worldwide so that songs like Poker Face and Applause can become huge hits. And at the end of the day, Gaga still gets paid very handsomely and has made hundreds of millions of dollars since she started, as well as getting to make the music she loves. Interscope has been very good to Lady Gaga.

 

Lady Gaga is a wonderful musician and artist who creates fantastic work, but she can't handle the production, distribution, and promotion of her work entirely on her own. And that's totally OKAY. Record labels are there to ensure that all of that vital work gets done so that she can make great music and get paid for it, and we ultimately get to enjoy it. 

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Artists don't really need record labels? 

 

Get real. If there weren't record labels, Lady Gaga would still be dancing with Lady Starlight and hawking demo CDs in seedy Lower East Side dives.

 

Fans love to hate on labels, but they completely ignore the important role that they play in music. The music business is ultimately a BUSINESS, and labels help guide and support artists like Gaga so they can achieve critical and commercial success within that framework. For instance, Gaga has never actually paid for the production of her albums - her label, from the very beginning, paid for and helped arrange for her to work with top producers and other production personnel. Once the album is complete, the label makes millions of CDs and ships them to stores everywhere, arranges for an iTunes release, schedules promotional appearances like at the VMAs and Good Morning America, and works with radio stations worldwide so that songs like Poker Face and Applause can become huge hits. And at the end of the day, Gaga still gets paid very handsomely and has made hundreds of millions of dollars since she started, as well as getting to make the music she loves. Interscope has been very good to Lady Gaga.

 

Lady Gaga is a wonderful musician and artist who creates fantastic work, but she can't handle the production, distribution, and promotion of her work entirely on her own. And that's totally OKAY. Record labels are there to ensure that all of that vital work gets done so that she can make great music and get paid for it, and we ultimately get to enjoy it. 

"if it werent for labels gaga would still be hawking demo records with starlight- etc" so in your opinion, gaga needed a label in order to progress musically? it might have given her that drive, or at least heightened it, but really shes always had that drive and now that shes in the commercialized circle she understands it, shes been in the belly of it, and now, she doesnt really care for it. theres a reason. it has nothing to do with whether or not shes lazy, or whether or not she has an inability to write "hits" its the fact that the music industry has to monetize every medium of creativity until there's no creativity left, and thats exactly what happened to gaga this era. her creativity was milked dry by people like troy, with things like chart obsessions, the fan wars, and ultimately with this idea that fans have gotten wrapped up into where they believe a label is responsible for the things that they see. 

 

for instance u mention the label's power to get gaga these promotional spots like the vmas, good morning america, where she can do this type of iconic performance, or wear this crazy outfit, or etc. but really the stage she is at does not affect the overall product. gaga could have easily evolved on her own as an "indie" artists and still gotten to a performance like applause just at a different stage that may be wasnt televised, or maybe wasnt as popular, but at least she'd be appreciated for what she did. basically what i mean is its not the fact that shes at some popular televised event that drives her work. she is bringing what the underground and avant garde does to the main stage, by that notion, the main stage needs her a lot more than she needs to be popular, if that makes sense. the mainstream needs that creativity more than the place that already has it; the alternative/indie/underground scene.