badgalriri 1,124 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Then dropped to 88 the following week. but a top 10 nonetheless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Monster 846 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 It's a triumph because she released her best music yet :gaga: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeala 875 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Who cares about being #1 in Billboard when you are part of one of the most important museums of the world? Since she is a singer and not a mummy, BB >>>>>> museums. Or we could just let her define her own legacy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter 3,640 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Am I the only one who thinks this sounds extra brainless? (no offense) I don't know, ask your three brain cells (no offence of course) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,123 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 All of that is true. But she's not slaying, so the accomplishments are rendered invalid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pain of fame1 229 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 DOPE was a top 10 hit many of you forget that. The slayage. THIS. Dope slays. And DWUW was alsmot a top 10. An ARTPOP has sold almost 3M... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I don't think any of those "triumphs" are because of ARTPOP, but still, they're very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 She is now very succesful indie artist, even hipsters start liking her, look at G.U.Y. film comments, so it's a good that she is doing her thing while staying a little bit succesful at the same time too. :) Indie artist? "A little bit successful"? PLEASE. Fucking stop. :roll: OT: Quite an artistic revolution this era was. :legend: ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I don't think any of those "triumphs" are because of ARTPOP, but still, they're very good They very well could be. Gaga approached these artists trying to make an artistic statemnt this era.... The ARTPOP Era... And that is even very common among pop artists. Through this era Gaga has gained the respect of many artist. And umm I know you think ARTPOP has no theme because I've seen you comment "Anything = Nothing." But seriously... In all seriousness... The theme is puting art into pop. This has been accomplished this era. I feel those who say ARTPOP could mean anything (even those who defend it) don't understand the theme. And by that line I believe she meant that the way you interpret her art (the art in pop) could be very different from how I would and that's why it could mean anything like all art. Art isn't easily dedined so it's all about interpretation but the bottom line was puting art into pop. Sorry for going off topic on ya by the way I just thought this is a pretty good thread to do so. :emma: ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 They very well could be. Gaga approached these artists trying to make an artistic statemnt this era.... The ARTPOP Era... And that is even very common among pop artists. Through this era Gaga has gained the respect of many artist. And umm I know you think ARTPOP has no theme because I've seen you comment "Anything = Nothing." But seriously... In all seriousness... The theme is puting art into pop. This has been accomplished this era. I feel those who say ARTPOP could mean anything (even those who defend it) don't understand the theme. And by that line I believe she meant that the way you interpret her art (the art in pop) could be very different from how I would and that's why it could mean anything like all art. Art isn't easily dedined so it's all about interpretation but the bottom line was puting art into pop. Sorry for going off topic on ya by the way I just thought this is a pretty good thread to do so. Oh I agree with your first comment! I meant it in the way that ARTPOP (the album) didn't make these things happen but Gaga herself, it's incredibly impressive she was featured in the Louvre, that's one hell of an achievement! No I understand the "theme" but like I said else where on the site. ARTPOP the album is pop music, that isn't the art Gaga was trying to achieve in the era! She was using the album as a foundation and a vessel ( ) to use to show off art through performance art and fashion however due to things happening out of her control she wasn't able to execute this the way she wished. The album it's self, doesn't have a theme, the era did but the album on it's own does not. Haha no it's fine, I like discussing it with people as long as they aren't blindly making statements and facts up about the album! I followed Gaga a lot this era and it was sad to see her not being able to execute the message she wanted to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Oh I agree with your first comment! I meant it in the way that ARTPOP (the album) didn't make these things happen but Gaga herself, it's incredibly impressive she was featured in the Louvre, that's one hell of an achievement! No I understand the "theme" but like I said else where on the site. ARTPOP the album is pop music, that isn't the art Gaga was trying to achieve in the era! She was using the album as a foundation and a vessel ( ) to use to show off art through performance art and fashion however due to things happening out of her control she wasn't able to execute this the way she wished. The album it's self, doesn't have a theme, the era did but the album on it's own does not. Haha no it's fine, I like discussing it with people as long as they aren't blindly making statements and facts up about the album! I followed Gaga a lot this era and it was sad to see her not being able to execute the message she wanted to. You said the album itself doesn't have a theme but I think it's part 1/2 of the big picture that is ARTPOP. I think if you weren't paying very close attention to the era (even if you are a fan) it wouldn't make sense. You have to see the art and how it meets the pop. Also paying very close attention to the words Gaga said for example when she said ARTPOP could mean anything but to her it's also a celebration of her career (because her entire career she has been ARTPOP) and that's why artRAVE is so appropriate. It celebrates ARTPOP. I believe the album was the POP part. The foundation of ARTPOP. Like you said... Gag wasn't given the power to completely bring to life her vision but I believe Gaga is a real go-getter. She made the best out of a REALLY tough situation, you know? I mean the Robert Wilson, Millie Brown, Jeff Koons collaborations really brought art and pop together. The art (Jeff for example) and the pop (gaga and the album cover for example). And I agree... Some fans of ARTPOP really wanna make it look good and they make up facts and it turns out looking even worse for all us ARTPOP stans. Like the gesture is appreciated but sometimes they're like "ARTPOP is just about possiblities and anything." Without further explaining it the way Gaga would've wanted. :fail: ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 i dont want to be rude or whatever but every critic i read about ARTPOP stated it was a good album but they also questioned where's was the art part on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 i dont want to be rude or whatever but every critic i read about ARTPOP stated it was a good album but they also questioned where's was the art part on it I just commented on this actually lol. If one isn't paying attention to the ENTIRE era you won't understand it. Gaga said "Put art INTO pop." So the album was pop... The foundation. And then art was put into it. Puting art into pop like performance art. For example... Bringing 'The Birth Of Venus' painting to life. Puting the art into her pop performances. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I just commented on this actually lol. If one isn't paying attention to the ENTIRE era you won't understand it. Gaga said "Put art INTO pop." So the album was pop... The foundation. And then art was put into it. Puting art into pop like performance art. For example... Bringing 'The Birth Of Venus' painting to life. Puting the art into her pop performances. by art she means recreating existing art pieces. BTW/TFM performances were more artistic then ARTPOP's ones for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 You said the album itself doesn't have a theme but I think it's part 1/2 of the big picture that is ARTPOP. I believe the album was the POP part. The foundation of ARTPOP. Like you said... Gag wasn't given the power to completely bring to life her vision but I believe Gaga is a real go-getter. She made the best out of a REALLY tough situation, you know? I mean the Robert Wilson, Millie Brown, Jeff Koons collaborations really brought art and pop together. The art (Jeff for example) and the pop (gaga and the album cover for example). And I agree... Some fans of ARTPOP really wanna make it look good and they make up facts and it turns out looking even worse for all us ARTPOP stans. Like the gesture is appreciated but sometimes they're like "ARTPOP is just about possiblities and anything." Without further explaining it the way Gaga would've wanted. Well Gaga needed a foundation to work from and ARTPOP (album) is the foundation, so yeah we agree! Oh yeah she tried to make the best of a bad situation but I think she also started making the situation a little worse for herself by trying to turn it into something more than it ever was meant to be. It's horrible that things didn't work out for her but I feel like she also fed the flames and actually accidentally made people decide to avoid it by making it out to be something other than a pop album. Yeah they did, they did really add to the era in that sense, it's a shame she didn't have a larger audience for it because they were some very huge moments for pop music. Can I just say though, I'm so happy someone else can actually remember and see that the album it's self is the pop part of ARTPOP. It's been painful trying to explain it to so many people who think the album is really experimental (in terms of production etc) when it's actually a pop album! OH MY GOD I KNOW. I know this'll sound bad but it's actually people getting the whole point of ARTPOP wrong that makes me feel like I need to be so firm when talking about the album. The possibilities of the album were about the ideas she had for it to be shown off and the fact with the app she could add and add to it, it is literally limitless as a body of work as it'll never be "finished" as she can always perform it differently etc.... but then there's the fans that really feel the need to overcomplicate the actual beauty of ARTPOP, it's simplicity and power to grow. I really like talking to you about ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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