Nein 508 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So none of you guys actually believe there are some terrorists or people who are against any kind of cure for AIDS / HIV. Of course there are, this cure could do wonders for the gay community, and I don't doubt for a second that there are people who would love to see them suffer. + Also, it was revealed that Russia shot them down and I can imagine how Putin would react to there being a cure for AIDS, and how it would better the LGBT community. HIV/AIDS can affect anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupid 760 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 So none of you guys actually believe there are some terrorists or people who are against any kind of cure for AIDS / HIV. Of course there are, this cure could do wonders for the gay community, and I don't doubt for a second that there are people who would love to see them suffer. + Also, it was revealed that Russia shot them down and I can imagine how Putin would react to there being a cure for AIDS, and how it would better the LGBT community. The 80's called and wanted their term "gay disease" back! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conqueror 27 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Nein, on 21 Jul 2014 - 12:34, said: HIV/AIDS can affect anyone. The 80's called and wanted their term "gay disease" back! I never said HIV / AIDS was a gay-only disease, and I know it's not a Gay-only disease, but some people think it is and that's what annoys me. I didn't mean for what I said to come across like that. - It annoys me when those FOX reporters and Christian (not all of them), Gay-bashers say that. I mean, there's people in Africa who have it, Christians are probably at a high risk because a lot of them are against contraception. For example, my Irish friend is Christian and he has 2 Brothers and 6 Sisters and he told me his parents don't use contraception because they're Christian. I didn't know at the time, that Christians don't use condoms, pills, etc. Anyways, it was reported Russia shot the plane down using a missile and the fact that there were 100 top UNICEF researchers who had knowledge and research about HIV / AIDS, maybe even ground-breaking news or findings, does seem a bit suspicious to me. Edited July 21, 2014 by DirtyLittleMonster Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VISION 52 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 + Also, it was revealed that Russia shot them down and I can imagine how Putin would react to there being a cure for AIDS, and how it would better the LGBT community. Wait..The investigation is over? Russian military shot the plane down from their territory? Am I missing something? And in 2014 this probably wasn't a mistake. Everyonce can just go to http://planefinder.net/, and see what commercial flights are above them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conqueror 27 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Wait..The investigation is over? Russian military shot the plane down from their territory? Am I missing something? And in 2014 this probably wasn't a mistake. Everyonce can just go to http://planefinder.net/, and see what commercial flights are above them https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=russia%20shot%20down%20plane http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/20/mh17-evidence-makes-it-very-clear-that-separatists-backed-by-russia-shot-down-malaysia-airlines-plane-u-s-says/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conqueror 27 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Wait..The investigation is over? Russian military shot the plane down from their territory? Am I missing something? And in 2014 this probably wasn't a mistake. Everyonce can just go to http://planefinder.net/, and see what commercial flights are above them The planefinder shows the plane went down in Bucharest, Romania. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VISION 52 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=russia%20shot%20down%20plane http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/20/mh17-evidence-makes-it-very-clear-that-separatists-backed-by-russia-shot-down-malaysia-airlines-plane-u-s-says/ The first link is just what you typed in, there is nothing about Russia shooting the airplane down. The second link says that pro-Russian separatists shot the plane (who happen to be Ukrainian) My point is that the investigation is not over. The Ukrainian president quickly blamed the separatists right when it happened even though there has been absolutely no proof yet. No one will confess in what they did, and so far there has been proof for both side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Josh 3 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Wait..The investigation is over? Russian military shot the plane down from their territory? Am I missing something? And in 2014 this probably wasn't a mistake. Everyonce can just go to http://planefinder.net/, and see what commercial flights are above them I believe radar equipment is destroyed in the area. The BUK missile system has a radar function that could tell whether it's a civilian or military plane though and if it was shot down by the separatists, they probably overlooked it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VISION 52 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I believe radar equipment is destroyed in the area. The BUK missile system has a radar function that could tell whether it's a civilian or military plane though and if it was shot down by the separatists, they probably overlooked it. That seems like a likely scenario. But what is very strange is that the airplane was supposed to fly in lower zone (over safe Crimea) and higher in altitude, for some reason Ukrainian airway dispatcher told them to fly much more to the North over the dangerous area and on a lower altitude (right where the missile could reach the airplane), the route is changed only due to unsafe weather, and it was clear everywhere. Maybe it is a coincidence, but what do you think about it? Anyway, passenger airplanes are NOT supposed to fly above such dangerous places, yet the did... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conqueror 27 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 That seems like a likely scenario. But what is very strange is that the airplane was supposed to fly in lower zone (over safe Crimea) and higher in altitude, for some reason Ukrainian airway dispatcher told them to fly much more to the North over the dangerous area and on a lower altitude (right where the missile could reach the airplane), the route is changed only due to unsafe weather, and it was clear everywhere. Maybe it is a coincidence, but what do you think about it? Anyway, passenger airplanes are NOT supposed to fly above such dangerous places, yet the did... Exactly, that's why I find it suspicious and maybe I watch too many conspiracy and thriller movies, but I think there's something evil involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The first link is just what you typed in, there is nothing about Russia shooting the airplane down. The second link says that pro-Russian separatists shot the plane (who happen to be Ukrainian) My point is that the investigation is not over. The Ukrainian president quickly blamed the separatists right when it happened even though there has been absolutely no proof yet. No one will confess in what they did, and so far there has been proof for both side. Didn't the rebel leader confess to shooting down enemy planes? They already shot down another earlier in the week apparently. Tbh, we won't know the truth about this with Russia involved.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Josh 3 Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 That seems like a likely scenario. But what is very strange is that the airplane was supposed to fly in lower zone (over safe Crimea) and higher in altitude, for some reason Ukrainian airway dispatcher told them to fly much more to the North over the dangerous area and on a lower altitude (right where the missile could reach the airplane), the route is changed only due to unsafe weather, and it was clear everywhere. Maybe it is a coincidence, but what do you think about it? Anyway, passenger airplanes are NOT supposed to fly above such dangerous places, yet the did... The flight just followed its normal route actually, the one it has been following since at least 2012. They only changed it after the crash happened, starting July 18, avoiding Ukraine altogether. Unfortunately many major carriers were flying over Ukraine, something awful like this had to happen to realize that it was unsafe and subsequently stop. They prefer keeping their profits high rather than their passengers safe like always. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 http://nos.nl/nieuws/live/journaal24/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Probably not entirely relevant but I think it's a great sign of consolidation that the Dutch Kind and Queen will be present for the arrival of the bodies. I'm not sure if this is the norm or not around the world. Other than that, my thoughts are still with the families who lost loved ones and I hope that those bodies still not found will be done so to be reunited with their families Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 This is all so surreal :cry: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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