Reno 79 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 And look, I understand that there are parts of Ukraine where innocent people are most likely getting hurt. Look at Israel/Palestine. And just because innocent people in Ukraine, being either pro-Russia or not, doesn't mean that Pro-Russian forces and Russian Military forces aren't. Because that's the truth. There's hate and violence on both sides, but for very different reasons. And the reason why people are becoming the aggressor is the main problem. It causes people to fight and bite without conclusions. Sadly we have to see these horrible things happen. But in response to all of your other postings, you can't blame the US or state crude lines to make your point. Your behavior is exactly why people are so up in arms. This separatists movement is pretty much the reason why all of this is happening. Plus there's a ton of anti-Ukrainian violence vids on Youtube. You can't beat around that. Don't get fooled by this guy he just registered an hour ago and all of his posts about how Russia is great... just goggle "paid Russian commentators" and you should get the point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker 3,770 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Don't get fooled by this guy he just registered an hour ago and all of his posts about how Russia is great... just goggle "paid Russian commentators" and you should get the point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades omg Kindness rules all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggedMonster 2 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Don't get fooled by this guy he just registered an hour ago and all of his posts about how Russia is great... just goggle "paid Russian commentators" and you should get the point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades So he/ come on GGD just to troll.. Edited July 17, 2014 by JaggedMonster Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Don't get fooled by this guy he just registered an hour ago and all of his posts about how Russia is great... just goggle "paid Russian commentators" and you should get the point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades I wouldn't want to assume that, but I was just trying to make bridges with them. We all have our opinions and sometimes it gets out of hand. sure. Payed commentator. You have your opinion? You're payed commentator Again, I understand that your country is in turmoil. It isn't looking great, but please know that I do care for the people who are getting hurt. Whether or not we agree, violence is never the answer. However, you must face the fact that Russia is playing a role in this whole issue. As is everyone in Ukraine. With the separatists expanding their pro-Russia stance, it's hard to balance the country o Ukraine when so many people want Russia. Do you get where I'm coming from? The problem isn't the US. It's not Russia. There are many factors going into this, but the points you made were not reasonable for argument. None of this would be happening if Eastern Ukraine wanted out. That's why you have this mess. And the influence of that is partly due to the EU and Russia, but external countries are not to blame except for the people taking part in the violence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 16,140 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Can Russia just sit the f*** down!? This all leads back to them for starting this $hit anyway :roll: F*cking war starters is what they are and I hate it. Nobody wants WW3 but the way they act I see it happening and it sucks :cry: British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1psy 0 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I wouldn't want to assume that, but I was just trying to make bridges with them. We all have our opinions and sometimes it gets out of hand. Again, I understand that your country is in turmoil. It isn't looking great, but please know that I do care for the people who are getting hurt. Whether or not we agree, violence is never the answer. However, you must face the fact that Russia is playing a role in this whole issue. As is everyone in Ukraine. With the separatists expanding their pro-Russia stance, it's hard to balance the country o Ukraine when so many people want Russia. Do you get where I'm coming from? The problem isn't the US. It's not Russia. There are many factors going into this, but the points you made were not reasonable for argument. None of this would be happening if Eastern Ukraine wanted out. That's why you have this mess. And the influence of that is partly due to the EU and Russia, but external countries are not to blame except for the people taking part in the violence. Let me explain. At referendum we voted for federalisation. That means we wanted to be part of ukraine, but with our own land, goverment, rights etc. Just like Germany. It's one country, but many lands with their own rights. But the thing is - it didn't suit goverment in kiev, 'cause most of money they had over here + it would be harder for nato to build their bases here (closer to russia). So they called us separatists and brought ukrainan army here. My friend decided to join ukrainian army (since he was for maidan). A month later, when army were shooting innocents, he called his mother and said "They're telling us to kill innocents, but some of us refused. Now they're taking us away to kill us" and from that time I haven't heard from him. Later, in city, which got "freed" from "separatists" civilians don't greet army with flowers, but with hate. Don't know why? + We're not separatits. We fight for our rights Can Russia just sit the f*** down!? This all leads back to them for starting this $hit anyway :roll: F*cking war starters is what they are and I hate it. Nobody wants WW3 but the way they act I see it happening and it sucks :cry: you mean "america" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 According to Dutch media the black boxes are brought to Moscow for investigation. They will descide if they gonna share the results later. Well say goodbye to the truth coming out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggedMonster 2 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 According to Dutch media the black boxes are brought to Moscow for investigation. They will descide if they gonna share the results later. Well say goodbye to the truth coming out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 This is so unbelievable. It's 2014 not 1930, they could easily find out it's a ****ing passenger jet even with an iPhone app. What's wrong with people. Contact was not possible because the air trafic control tower in Donetsk (closest to the crash) has been destroyed so disbatching happened at Kiev, Ukranian zone. They could not have known by any means what plane that was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupid 760 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Good lord @ the black box being sent to Moscow. What kind of biased investigation will this lead to??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernier 3,786 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Rest in Peace to the victims :( Although this hasn't nothing to do with the previous crash, it's been a horrible year for Malaysian Airlines, two high profile crashes in the same year, and we might never truly know what happened to both Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Let me explain. At referendum we voted for federalisation. That means we wanted to be part of ukraine, but with our own land, goverment, rights etc. Just like Germany. It's one country, but many lands with their own rights. But the thing is - it didn't suit goverment in kiev, 'cause most of money they had over here + it would be harder for nato to build their bases here (closer to russia). So they called us separatists and brought ukrainan army here. My friend decided to join ukrainian army (since he was for maidan). A month later, when army were shooting innocents, he called his mother and said "They're telling us to kill innocents, but some of us refused. Now they're taking us away to kill us" and from that time I haven't heard from him. Later, in city, which got "freed" from "separatists" civilians don't greet army with flowers, but with hate. Don't know why? + We're not separatits. We fight for our rights you mean "america" Well, then how do you explain the violence recorded that displays pro-Russian Ukrainians? As I said, there are victims on each side. People don't kill others without one striking first. There's more to this than your side of the story and it's pretty clear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1psy 0 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 what violence? You mean killing ukrainian army? It's a war. But we're defending civs, while they're killing. If someone of us does some crime, he will be punished, don't worry. If some of ukrainian soldiers surrender, we give them medicine and everything, before we hold them in captivity Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 16,140 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Let me explain. At referendum we voted for federalisation. That means we wanted to be part of ukraine, but with our own land, goverment, rights etc. Just like Germany. It's one country, but many lands with their own rights. But the thing is - it didn't suit goverment in kiev, 'cause most of money they had over here + it would be harder for nato to build their bases here (closer to russia). So they called us separatists and brought ukrainan army here. My friend decided to join ukrainian army (since he was for maidan). A month later, when army were shooting innocents, he called his mother and said "They're telling us to kill innocents, but some of us refused. Now they're taking us away to kill us" and from that time I haven't heard from him. Later, in city, which got "freed" from "separatists" civilians don't greet army with flowers, but with hate. Don't know why? + We're not separatits. We fight for our rights you mean "america" Last time I checked America isn't invading a country and threatening every one and acting like a bad b*tch who can do whatever they want! British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1psy 0 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Last time I checked America isn't invading a country and threatening every one and acting like a bad b*tch who can do whatever they want! last time I checked, murica brought democracy to Lybia, Syria, Afghan, Iran, Iraq and now, suddenly, they support ukraine Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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