htrllllsem 14 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 um so not experimental music = not good? m-e-s-s Except she did say it was, that it was going to be artistic And ****, there's nothing artistic about them, only on the song ARTPOP. And it's not up to Gagas level, so no. It's good, it's just not up to her level :later: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Axel 824 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It's definitely underrated, but there's no way its the MOST underrated album ever It's really not underrated, if it was packed with hits why (other than sort of applause) did it not have any hits? The concept and theme is completely underdeveloped too just this tbh, the album's theme and concepts were ALL over the place, it wasn't cohesive at all ʟɪᴠɪɴɢ ᴛʜᴇ ɢᴏʟᴅ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ꜱɪʟᴠᴇʀ ᴅʀᴇᴀᴍ ϟ†▽✰𝒿 ~Ɐ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltaic 25 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 As much as it is a good album, it doesn't hold a candle to Born This Way. The fact that it was released after one of the greatest albums in the history of pop music makes it underappreciated, perhaps, 'cause let's face it, it WAS a downgrade.Agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltaic 25 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 For me it's like this album was made to success with all their 3-minute songs, catchy fast electronic tunes. But in reality it all kinda feels like empty and dull "Swine" especially. The organic sound of Born This Way gives longetivity to the album. But ARTPOP is just catchy Pop record with a few artsy lyrics here and there. Mostly weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperIz 7,346 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It is not the best album ever but I do think it is underrated, it's underperformance made people act like it is a huge pile of **** but it is not, this all the way. It makes me so upset when people equate it's performance to it's quality. Human generated art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic 1,415 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 The problem is - the album is not consistent. There are bunch of completely different songs with different messages and sound. Also there are few very underwhelming songs there, which excludes an album from being masterpiece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaDragon 10 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It is so upsetting that since Copy Perry did better than Gaga (which really isn't that much better than her when Katy is in her "peak" and Gaga is "flopping") ARTPOP is seen as a horrible album and a complete failure. I'm f*cking sorry that Gaga didn't sell 1 million copies in the US first week, SHES DONT IT BEFORE and where was the praise then?? No where to be found! And I'm sorry that Gaga doesn't write songs for f*ckin Disney Channel like someone else. Gaga is easily and undeniably the greatest vocalist, writer, and performer of our generation. That's not an opinion, that's a fact, you can't deny it. ARTPOP is a brilliant album, the concept is fricken genius and she accomplished it! The album didn't have to sell 10 million copies to be a success, she had to follow through with it correctly for it to be a success, and that's what she did. She wore things like the Mona Lisa Dress, and the black and white striped outfit (??) and the Swine Performance at SXSW which was like a painting being made during the performance of an electronic pop song! OH! And the fricken album cover that brings 2 popular and classic art pieces into the cover of a pop album! Your are completely correct, if ARTPOP sold 10 million copies it would EASILY be everyone's favorite album, just because it already has good music, just not huge success (which she's had 2 times before so who does she have to prove!?) so people drag it! Rant Over! :) So much wrong with this post i can't even might be a troll but i'll bite. It is so upsetting that since Copy Perry did better than Gaga (which really isn't that much better than her when Katy is in her "peak" and Gaga is "flopping") ARTPOP is seen as a horrible album and a complete failure. Firstly please stop comparing her to Katy! Gaga herself said that they both make completely different music. Dragging Katy is so freaking desperate now, so please stop because it's embarrassing. Gaga is easily and undeniably the greatest vocalist, writer, and performer of our generation. That's not an opinion, that's a fact, you can't deny it. See this is why people laugh at Monsters, if you said she was one of the greatest then i would agree with you. But the way you put it you'd think she were a one in a million talent and we'll never see her kind again, and to top it all off you call it a "fact". That is an opinion sugar tits, this is how i would have put it as an OPINION "Gaga is one of the most innovative pop artists from our generation who rejuvenated an ailing mainstream music industry with her eccentric style and grace. A great vocalist, songwriter and visionary, she will forever be acknowledged for her impact on pop culture". ARTPOP is a brilliant album, the concept is fricken genius and she accomplished it! The album didn't have to sell 10 million copies to be a success, she had to follow through with it correctly for it to be a success, and that's what she did. Accomplished what exactly? How did she follow through with it correctly? this honestly confused me, care to elaborate? She wore things like the Mona Lisa Dress, and the black and white striped outfit (??) and the Swine Performance at SXSW which was like a painting being made during the performance of an electronic pop song! OH! And the fricken album cover that brings 2 popular and classic art pieces into the cover of a pop album! This thread pertains to the quality of the album, not what she wore or her live performances. I could easily mention many iconic BTW outfits and performances as well but that's not relevant. As far as album covers go, the majority hated the BTW album cover but the album is seen as a masterpiece, so no point in bringing up irrelevant side factors. Also why do you keep bleating "10 million copies"? How do you know everyone would love the album? That's simply conjecture so stop passing it off as some hard stone truth. Not to mention it's completely irrational when looking at the current plight of album sales. Whether it had good music or not is up to each individual, but by all indications the album was a disappointment sales wise, music wise and management wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 15,088 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 So much wrong with this post i can't even might be a troll but i'll bite. Firstly please stop comparing her to Katy! Gaga herself said that they both make completely different music. Dragging Katy is so freaking desperate now, so please stop because it's embarrassing. See this is why people laugh at Monsters, if you said she was one of the greatest then i would agree with you. But the way you put it you'd think she were a one in a million talent and we'll never see her kind again, and to top it all off you call it a "fact". That is an opinion sugar tits, this is how i would have put it as an OPINION "Gaga is one of the most innovative pop artists from our generation who rejuvenated an ailing mainstream music industry with her eccentric style and grace. A great vocalist, songwriter and visionary, she will forever be acknowledged for her impact on pop culture". Accomplished what exactly? How did she follow through with it correctly? this honestly confused me, care to elaborate? This thread pertains to the quality of the album, not what she wore or her live performances. I could easily mention many iconic BTW outfits and performances as well but that's not relevant. As far as album covers go, the majority hated the BTW album cover but the album is seen as a masterpiece, so no point in bringing up irrelevant side factors. Also why do you keep bleating "10 million copies"? How do you know everyone would love the album? That's simply conjecture so stop passing it off as some hard stone truth. Not to mention it's completely irrational when looking at the current plight of album sales. Whether it had good music or not is up to each individual, but by all indications the album was a disappointment sales wise, music wise and management wise. THIS is what i see wrong today, instead of defending Gaga anymore we drag the ones who do defend her :fail: British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 15,088 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Your entire post is full of opinions. Not a single "fact" Sorry, but if you don't think things like ARTPOP would be considered an amazing piece of music and it would have gotten a lot better reviews from critics if it sold better then your delusional I'm not getting into any arguments in this thread because there is one fact that no one can deny, ARTPOP is a really cool concept that should have been given more respect, but since it didn't sell so well it is seen as a messy concept and gets bet reviews from critics :shrug: British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 533 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 if ARTPOP had been a huge hit people would act like it was the second coming fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaDragon 10 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 THIS is what i see wrong today, instead of defending Gaga anymore we drag the ones who do defend her Why should i defend something/someone blindly? I've looked at ARTPOP as objectively as i can and have based my opinion on it by that. I assume you must be really young... Also stop taking the moral high-ground here as if the ones defending her are some to the death martyrs. I'm sure Gaga would prefer fans that tell her like it is than annoying ones like you that can't handle one ounce of criticism her way. if ARTPOP had been a huge hit people would act like it was the second coming fact Conjecture Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let Love Down 63 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 The songs are very basic and just so soulless and lacking in comparison to her past work. She said every song on the album is designed to be a hit, and you can see what her method for doing that was. It's bubblegum pop but with weirdness added to it, lacking the depth and creativity of her past songs. Even her older bubblegum hits had depth to them. I really hope she does do the b side album. Getting her old songs is probably the most enjoyment I'll get out of Gaga as I cannot stand her new direction. It's basic and tacky. I still love Gaga but not this new direction. No I wouldn't. The success of the album has nothing to do with my reasoning for disliking the album. Your ignorance is astounding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 533 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Conjecture in my opinion it's a fact there ya go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGoneGaga 86 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I really hope she does do the b side album. Getting her old songs is probably the most enjoyment I'll get out of Gaga as I cannot stand her new direction. It's basic and tacky. I still love Gaga but not this new direction. Pop music will never be low brow... Also, Jazz is classy, not tacky. Radio friendly? No. But I do prefer ARTPOP over her other 2 albums any day. Yes...although Judas and Bloody Mary make my life happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 if arpop was full of hits, we would have had hits damn. But yeah, ARTPOP is seriously not that great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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