Israel - Palestine Conflict Discussion Thread

[Cody Draco 2,531]

What a mess.

[NiveusPhoenix 0]

This isnt last innocent lost. Today, ısrael calls 5-hour truce in Gaza after 4 Palestinian children killed on beach by battleship. :(

[vespertine 3]

:smh:

[Ronlop 6,882]

Real Jews, dark, similar to Arabs used to live there in the past, not jewish converts who moved from Europe.

There are also white Arabs.

Who said the Jews that lived back then were dark skinned anyways?

Also, even if the Jews back then were dark skinned. When they were sent to Exile, some of them went to Europe and some of them went to North African countries or Iraq, Iran and so on. The ones in Europe might have married white women and therefor, white children were born. Still the same Jewish people.

 

Why do you need to separate people because of their skin color?

[craig 680]

Being under constant attack leads to this.

The liberal democratic Allies in World War II had similar media policies and public attitudes (aka some control on reporting of military activities and little public desire for dirt on one's own side).

[lego 44,165]

There are also white Arabs.

Who said the Jews that lived back then were dark skinned anyways?

Also, even if the Jews back then were dark skinned. When they were sent to Exile, some of them went to Europe and some of them went to North African countries or Iraq, Iran and so on. The ones in Europe might have married white women and therefor, white children were born. Still the same Jewish people.

 

Why do you need to separate people because of their skin color?

No. There is a difference between convert to Judaism and Jew from Middle East. Don't twist my words, it's not about the skin colour, you cannot just take all the converts all over the world and say this is your promissed land now that we kicked out Palestinians from their homes, get it? Btw, do you believe you are the chosen people by God? Do you follow Talmud?

[Ronlop 6,882]

No. There is a difference between convert to Judaism and Jew from Middle East. Don't twist my words, it's not about the skin colour, you cannot just take all the converts all over the world and say this is your promissed land now that we kicked out Palestinians from their homes, get it? Btw, do you believe you are the chosen people by God? Do you follow Talmud?

Also, even if the Jews back then were dark skinned. When they were sent to Exile, some of them went to Europe and some of them went to North African countries or Iraq, Iran and so on. The ones in Europe might have married white women and therefor, white children were born. Still the same Jewish people.

 

I believe God made us all equal. I am not better than you and you're not better than me. 

[garnite 8]

No. There is a difference between convert to Judaism and Jew from Middle East. Don't twist my words, it's not about the skin colour, you cannot just take all the converts all over the world and say this is your promissed land now that we kicked out Palestinians from their homes, get it? Btw, do you believe you are the chosen people by God? Do you follow Talmud?

he told me that if i converted to judaism tomorrow that i would be entitled to israel as a home too.

[Ronlop 6,882]

he told me that if i converted to judaism tomorrow that i would be entitled to israel too.

That is part of Israel's rules though. It's the only Jewish country in the world.

I didn't invent it

 

and not all Jewish people live in Israel yet

[garnite 8]

That is part of Israel's rules though. It's the only Jewish country in the world.

I didn't invent it

 

and not all Jewish people live in Israel yet

yes, but you believe it is just and fair.

[Ronlop 6,882]

yes, but you believe it is just and fair.

Yup

 

I'm here to stay.

If the Palestinians want to join, they are more than welcomed. That's how I take this 

[lego 44,165]

he told me that if i converted to judaism tomorrow that i would be entitled to israel as a home too.

Yeah I remember that. I don't know how is that fair. In order to make space for all the Jews around the world you have to expand and expel Arabs from their homes, then when groups are formed to oppose this, you label them as terrorists and blame them for everything.

[lego 44,165]

This isnt last innocent lost. Today, ısrael calls 5-hour truce in Gaza after 4 Palestinian children killed on beach by battleship. :(

Yeah I know there are a lot more victims, this article is over week old but it's very interesting. It's also written by a Jew.

[Ronlop 6,882]

Yeah I remember that. I don't know how is that fair. In order to make space for all the Jews around the world you have to expand and expel Arabs from their homes, then when groups are formed to oppose this, you label them as terrorists and blame them for everything.

You can disagree if you want but I'm here to stay.

And this is the only Jewish country in the world and I'm proud of it. Yes, the government's decisions are not always right and I don't support all of them but some of them are caused from self-defense as well.

It may not be fair and it may be cruel to have a state only for Jewish people but it's your opinion.

For me, it is safe, and I am really proud of my country and it's existence and there is nothing that will change that.

 

The Palestinians deserve to live in this land as well so I don't mind them joining or having their own independent country in Israel making it 2 countries in 1 territory. 

Innocent people were killed on both of the sides. Yes, on the Palestinian side more were killed but also in the Israeli side innocent people were killed.

 

I will not move from this land because I was born here and I am here to stay. Call me a bad person but this is already my home

 

I believe the Palestinians and the Israelis can live together in peace here. If you don't believe, it's your choice.

[lego 44,165]

You can disagree if you want but I'm here to stay.

And this is the only Jewish country in the world and I'm proud of it. Yes, the government's decisions are not always right and I don't support all of them but some of them are caused from self-defense as well.

It may not be fair and it may be cruel to have a state only for Jewish people but it's your opinion.

For me, it is safe, and I am really proud of my country and it's existence and there is nothing that will change that.

 

The Palestinians deserve to live in this land as well so I don't mind them joining or having their own independent country in Israel making it 2 countries in 1 territory. 

Innocent people were killed on both of the sides. Yes, on the Palestinian side more were killed but also in the Israeli side innocent people were killed.

 

I will not move from this land because I was born here and I am here to stay. Call me a bad person but this is already my home

 

I believe the Palestinians and the Israelis can live together in peace here. If you don't believe, it's your choice.

Your country, your goverment has done so much evil, opression and genocide on Palestinian side that being so proud of it makes it seem like you are glorifying all those things.

I don't think you need to move, I think the state of Israel shouldn't exist. You lived among Arabs before, there are Jews still in Morroco, Iran with full rights, this hate towards Israeli Jews in ME wouldn't exist if your country wasn't build on genocide.