Israel - Palestine Conflict Discussion Thread

[Jjang 2,262]

*I'm judging every one who defends this.

[CHANTEL 2]

This doesn't relate to what I said AT ALL

And even if you're not from US, why don't you condemn all "Americans" from taking the land from the natives? They seem to have moved on quite happily, why Israeli shouldnt?

Please point out to me where I didn't condemn what happened.

And I'm not gonna fight for all the injustice in this world I'm gonna fight for what's happening in my region, at least for now

[Ronlop 6,882]

I was 7. No i obviously didn't back then but I still had to live through it, Hide form bombings and run away to Syria so I can take a plane elsewhere so really it doesn't matter to me why it exactly started, although I'm think it's about something between Hisballah and Israel. The fact that Israel would need to attack a whole country just for them

Well Hisballah did rule over Lebanon back then or was with close relationship with the government

so do i. and i judge who i deem are the oppressors and it is clear to me who are. not judging does not automatically make you morally superior. it can be cowardly or ignorant.

Okay so what now?

 

I disagree with you. You disagree with me.

 

I guess we won't change each other. The only thing I can hope for is that you respect me as a human being who has his own opinion, because I do respect you.

[CHANTEL 2]

Well Hisballah did rule over Lebanon back then or was with close relationship with the government

Hisballah never ruled Lebanon sis and is simply one of the Partys in Lebanon

so nope, I still see that Israel is doing what shouldn't be done and attacking my country for no apparent reason

[MahoganySnitch 67]

Can people, like, not do this? 

[Kermit the frog 1,936]

Please point out to me where I didn't condemn what happened.

And I'm not gonna fight for all the injustice in this world I'm gonna fight for what's happening in my region, at least for now

I'm just trying to show you how unrealistic your expectations are. To think that Israeli born into those taken lands would start feeling guilty or sth? Lol, try to re-think it, then. War is a natural thing. Vile, but natural and land reshuffles have happened COUNTLESS times all over the world, some peacefully but most bloodily.

[Ronlop 6,882]

Hisballah never ruled Lebanon sis and is simply one of the Partys in Lebanon

so nope, I still see that Israel is doing what shouldn't be done and attacking my country for no apparent reason

for no apparent reason?

 

This discussion ends right here, sorry. I will not tolerate this. I am a human being as well and I have feelings and a memory from that time. 

[CHANTEL 2]

for no apparent reason?

 

This discussion ends right here, sorry. I will not tolerate this. I am a human being as well and I have feelings and a memory from that time. 

I still don't see what's the reason since you're not even trying to clarify

don't hide yourself cause you don't have any reply with such statements as "I am a human being" I am one as well, so what? I still lived through more than 90% of what you've lived and im still under 18

[MonsterMarty 96]

Not to go hippy dippy on the mess in here, but yeah.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLgYAHHkPFs

[CHANTEL 2]

I'm just trying to show you how unrealistic your expectations are. To think that Israeli born into those taken lands would start feeling guilty or sth? Lol, try to re-think it, then. War is a natural thing. Vile, but natural and land reshuffles have happened COUNTLESS times all over the world, some peacefully but most bloodily.

No I don't expect them to be, it doesn't mean I don't want that government to fade

[MahoganySnitch 67]

I just don't want to offend anyone here.

I personally think I have the right to live in Israel just like the Palestinians have. 

But when there's a far-right politician calling for the deaths of Palestinian mothers and clear military advantages over Gaza, what will be the cost to securing this right to the land? It terrifies me, especially when children who have no dog in this fight are being killed. 

[Ronlop 6,882]

I still don't see what's the reason since you're not even trying to clarify

don't hide yourself cause you don't have any reply with such statements as "I am a human being" I am one as well, so what? I still lived through more than 90% of what you've lived and im still under 18

Just read then:

 

The conflict started on 12 July 2006, and continued until a United Nations-brokered ceasefire went into effect in the morning on 14 August 2006, though it formally ended on 8 September 2006 when Israel lifted its naval blockade of Lebanon. Due to unprecedented Iranian military support to Hezbollah before and during the war, some consider it the first round of the Iran–Israel proxy conflict, rather than a continuation of the Arab-Israeli conflict.[1]

The conflict was precipitated by the Zar'it-Shtula incident. On 12 July 2006, militants from the group Hezbollah fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence.[36] The ambush left three soldiers dead. Two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped and taken by Hezbollah to Lebanon.[36][37] Five more were killed in Lebanon, in a failed rescue attempt. Hezbollah demanded the release of Lebanese prisoners held by Israel in exchange for the release of the abducted soldiers.[38] Israel refused and responded with airstrikes and artillery fire on targets in Lebanon. Israel attacked both Hezbollah military targets and Lebanese civilian infrastructure, including Beirut's Rafic Hariri International Airport.[39] The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched a ground invasion of southern Lebanon. Israel also imposed an air and naval blockade.[40] Hezbollah then launched more rockets into northern Israel and engaged the IDF in guerrilla warfare from hardened positions.[41]

[thathimerosguy 3]

and yet the u.s. supports

[CHANTEL 2]

Just read then:

 

The conflict started on 12 July 2006, and continued until a United Nations-brokered ceasefire went into effect in the morning on 14 August 2006, though it formally ended on 8 September 2006 when Israel lifted its naval blockade of Lebanon. Due to unprecedented Iranian military support to Hezbollah before and during the war, some consider it the first round of the Iran–Israel proxy conflict, rather than a continuation of the Arab-Israeli conflict.[1]

The conflict was precipitated by the Zar'it-Shtula incident. On 12 July 2006, militants from the group Hezbollah fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence.[36] The ambush left three soldiers dead. Two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped and taken by Hezbollah to Lebanon.[36][37] Five more were killed in Lebanon, in a failed rescue attempt. Hezbollah demanded the release of Lebanese prisoners held by Israel in exchange for the release of the abducted soldiers.[38] Israel refused and responded with airstrikes and artillery fire on targets in Lebanon. Israel attacked both Hezbollah military targets and Lebanese civilian infrastructure, including Beirut's Rafic Hariri International Airport.[39] The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched a ground invasion of southern Lebanon. Israel also imposed an air and naval blockade.[40] Hezbollah then launched more rockets into northern Israel and engaged the IDF in guerrilla warfare from hardened positions.[41]

 

You literally highlighted the bit that shows your side as the victim

let me remind you that Hisbolah was just trying to get the Lebanese people who were imprisoned in Israel Back with this tactic

 

Israel started a full scale war because of 3 dead soldiers and killed thousands of Lebanese civilians, let's not

[Poker 3,770]

Just read then:

 

The conflict started on 12 July 2006, and continued until a United Nations-brokered ceasefire went into effect in the morning on 14 August 2006, though it formally ended on 8 September 2006 when Israel lifted its naval blockade of Lebanon. Due to unprecedented Iranian military support to Hezbollah before and during the war, some consider it the first round of the Iran–Israel proxy conflict, rather than a continuation of the Arab-Israeli conflict.[1]

The conflict was precipitated by the Zar'it-Shtula incident. On 12 July 2006, militants from the group Hezbollah fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence.[36] The ambush left three soldiers dead. Two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped and taken by Hezbollah to Lebanon.[36][37] Five more were killed in Lebanon, in a failed rescue attempt. Hezbollah demanded the release of Lebanese prisoners held by Israel in exchange for the release of the abducted soldiers.[38] Israel refused and responded with airstrikes and artillery fire on targets in Lebanon. Israel attacked both Hezbollah military targets and Lebanese civilian infrastructure, including Beirut's Rafic Hariri International Airport.[39] The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched a ground invasion of southern Lebanon. Israel also imposed an air and naval blockade.[40] Hezbollah then launched more rockets into northern Israel and engaged the IDF in guerrilla warfare from hardened positions.[41]

When did that happened? before or after the missile attack?

You literally highlighted the bit that shows your side as the victim

let me remind you that Hisbolah was just trying to get the Lebanese people who were imprisoned in Israel Back with this tactic

 

Israel started a full scale war because of 3 dead soldiers and killed thousands of Lebanese civilians, let's not

Is that true? Why did Israel imprison Lebanese people?