VersaceKing 419 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 oh so now you have the right to kill other people since the jews were killed by millions? Palestinians are being killed aswell just like the jews during the holocaust. It's not the same way but it still is killing. You're actually saying that you now have the right to kill Palestinians because Jews were killed in the past. How were Palestinians even involved in the holocaust? First of all sis, i think they have the RIGHT to disagree about the partition. I mean you're basically getting into their territory and saying You will only get a half of your own country because we want to establish another country over here. Like how do you expect them to react? I've NEVER said such thing so don't put things in my mouth. No one has the right to kill each other, as no one has the right to kidnap 3 innocent teenagers when they were coming back from school after they took a test - and did nothing. The conflict is between the governments and not between people. The terror organizations are trying to take apart the struggles that are already been doing between the governments for years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 You guys again made this a political argument? We're talking about a very sad event that happened right now. Let's focus on this in this thread please... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VersaceKing 419 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 oh my god the DELUSION just because you don't know the history of the middle east doesn't mean I'm delusional - it means you're fed with what the antiIsraeli media says and spread lies to the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 As a result of this situation hundreds of innocent people were arrested without going to curt even though that's their basic human right, don't pull the "terrorists" excuse on me cause that's bull****. Calm down Sam. This isn't the place or the time to have a political argument. I understand your opinion and what you feel but a very sad event happened today and this is the thread's main discussion so I just hope we could all focus on this here atleast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 just because you don't know the history of the middle east doesn't mean I'm delusional - it means you're fed with what the antiIsraeli media says and spread lies to the world. Obviously i am since I'm lebanese just like you are with antiPalestinian media lol we have the exact same situation in both sides I've NEVER said such thing so don't put things in my mouth. No one has the right to kill each other, as no one has the right to kidnap 3 innocent teenagers when they were coming back from school after they took a test - and did nothing. The conflict is between the governments and not between people. The terror organizations are trying to take apart the struggles that are already been doing between the governments for years now. yeah and no one has the right to kick out people out of their homes for years now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Rways, I understand you have alot to say about the political conflict between Israel and Palestine. But is it really the right time to say all of this? A very sad event happened today and I think we should focus on this in this thread. The title of the thread did not invite us to talk about the political conflict and ufcourse not to argue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 127,427 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 You are all sick of the lies that the politicians and the media tells you, open your mind, start to LOVE. Israel and Palestine, and any other country in the middle east are ruled by crazy politicians that only see death in their eyes. I am Israeli, I was in jail for 5 months because I DIDN'T want to serve the military, I didn't want to use a gun and to kill, I didn't want to participate in a war and in the conflict. I just want to live. And I couldn't, the city that I lived suffered from rocket from Gaza, it was a nightmare, and instead of trying to talk, Israel bombed them back. So I decided that there is no future for both Israelis and Palestinians, none of the want peace, they just want war and death. And I left Israel and I don't want to come back, i moved to France with my boyfriend. Later I met my best friend, she's a Syrian, and we love each other, we support each other, because we understand what is it to live in a war every single day, and we both want peace and to ****ing LIVE! So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I've NEVER said such thing so don't put things in my mouth. No one has the right to kill each other, as no one has the right to kidnap 3 innocent teenagers when they were coming back from school after they took a test - and did nothing. The conflict is between the governments and not between people. The terror organizations are trying to take apart the struggles that are already been doing between the governments for years now. *Just like no one has the right to kick people out of their home + steal their property and arrest INNOCENT people straight from their homes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 You are all sick of the lies that the politicians and the media tells you, open your mind, start to LOVE. Israel and Palestine, and any other country in the middle east are ruled by crazy politicians that only see death in their eyes. I am Israeli, I was in jail for 5 months because I DIDN'T want to serve the military, I didn't want to use a gun and to kill, I didn't want to participate in a war and in the conflict. I just want to live. And I couldn't, the city that I lived suffered from rocket from Gaza, it was a nightmare, and instead of trying to talk, Israel bombed them back. So I decided that there is no future for both Israelis and Palestinians, none of the want peace, they just want war and death. And I left Israel and I don't want to come back, i moved to France with my boyfriend. Later I met my best friend, she's a Syrian, and we love each other, we support each other, because we understand what is it to live in a war every single day, and we both want peace and to ****ing LIVE! Omfg I respect you so much for all of this. but the problem is that you don't live in the middle east. You feel how bad it is to both sides, 50 years of hatred don't go away just like that. Both sides commit loads of errors. And israel instead of not having a prejudice against the Palestinians and arrest innocents just for being Palestinians. This case is literally just another case of how Israel deals with palestinians and how they threat them for no reason. The origin of the murder is the political conflict and the consequences are still the political conflict. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatica 0 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Open a separate thread if you want to argue about who's right and who's not. R.I.P to the teens. Lol @ Israel reacting like an elephant in a porcelain shop. Lets not act as if they didnt commit any crimes bb4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid 13 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 oh so now you have the right to kill other people since the jews were killed by millions? Palestinians are being killed aswell just like the jews during the holocaust. It's not the same way but it still is killing. You're actually saying that you now have the right to kill Palestinians because Jews were killed in the past. How were Palestinians even involved in the holocaust? First of all sis, i think they have the RIGHT to disagree about the partition. I mean you're basically getting into their territory and saying You will only get a half of your own country because we want to establish another country over here. Like how do you expect them to react? I understand your point. But the truth is that they never had the right for this land. There was never a muslim/Arab state in this area. But the Israeli do have, you should take a look at the Balfour Declaration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Why isn't the media reporting the thousands of innocent people Israeli's army is killing? oh right they're terrorists I forgot, how stupid of me! Because clearly these 3 kids are more important than all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Just like no one has the right to kick people out of their home + steal their property and arrest INNOCENT people straight from their homes. Just to clarify, Israel did not arrest innocent people after the kidnap happened. They arrested past prisoners, past criminals in order to have them as an offer for a negotiation for the three boys ( if there would be a negotiation.). There is no right to kick people out of their home and there is no right to kill innocent people. but WHY is this the discussion now? Three teenagers were killed after they were kidnapped. This is the title of the thread and this is what the subject should be. I understand you have alot to say about the political conflict but unfortunately, this isn't the time or the place right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 The origin of the murder is the political conflict and the consequences are still the political conflict.yes, well put. it's the inevitable discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I understand your point. But the truth is that they never had the right for this land. There was never a muslim/Arab state in this area. But the Israeli do have, you should take a look at the Balfour Declaration. sis how did they NEVER have a right for it? It was a british colony, it should gotten it's independence long ago. Even tho it is controlled by Britain it still had it's own culture and civilization! I'm Lebanese and this offends me a LOT cause it's like saying the french never should have let us have our independence and we'd still live under their control. The problem is that Palestine after being controlled by Britain it's control was transferred to the Israeli government, it's basically still a colony, a colony fighting for independence, just like my country did like 60 years ago. Why isn't the media reporting the thousands of innocent people Israeli's army is killing? oh right they're terrorists I forgot, how stupid of me! Because clearly these 3 kids are more important than all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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