MonsterMum 2,532 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yep. That what I'm trying to understand. Why do people find of "free palestine" as something good or SO necessary? It won't be the same people who's been living there and it also means deporting the Israelis, which is not really human either. Hold on tho cause it's not the Palestinians fault that Israel slowly moving stripping them away from more land. That is something the Israel government descided to do all on their own. Let's say in a crazy world they would give it back, who is to blame for the jewish settlers to become homeless? So why is it ok if it happens to be Palestinians that become homeless? Let me direct this from a humanistic level, as a human being to human being. It is in human nature that people driven into a corner, take that as literal as you want, will do 2 things. Either cower in fear and surrender. Or respond irrationally aggresive and lash out even if they cannot overpower the situation. This is exactly how Hamas is operating now. Is it smart? No ofc not, everyone can see that this is a definate loss. But as a human being I understand it. The desperate need to protect and fight back even if you go down fighting. I would do the same thing if I was fighting for my child. Your people also know exactly what it is if you know you are about to loose but your heart and soul will not give up. And right now, Israel is breeding more extremists just because they are backing people into a corner more and more. Tell me, if you have to build a wall, checkpoints and have to have an army standby 24-7 to protect you, are you truely a free human being? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 well so you assume. i won't take your advice, because that neutrality leads to stagnation and i just don't think it's wise or smart. let us make our own minds up, no matter where we live. that's private. But I see rockets being thrown on my sky, you don't. I see rockets being thrown on Gaza's sky, you don't. I see people running towards a safe place because the siren just started...you don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 But I see rockets being thrown on my sky, you don't. I see rockets being thrown on Gaza's sky, you don't. I see people running towards a safe place because the siren just started...you don't. i can see them on any news channel from both sides AND read the stories about it :) believe it or not, you do not need to see things with your own eyes to know about them. that's why we have the news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hold on tho cause it's not the Palestinians fault that Israel slowly moving stripping them away from more land. That is something the Israel government descided to do all on their own. Let's say in a crazy world they would give it back, who is to blame for the jewish settlers to become homeless? So why is it ok if it happens to be Palestinians that become homeless? Let me direct this from a humanistic level, as a human being to human being. It is in human nature that people driven into a corner, take that as literal as you want, will do 2 things. Either cower in fear and surrender. Or respond irrationally aggresive and lash out even if they cannot overpower the situation. This is exactly how Hamas is operating now. Is it smart? No ofc not, everyone can see that this is a definate loss. But as a human being I understand it. The desperate need to protect and fight back even if you go down fighting. I would do the same thing if I was fighting for my child. Your people also know exactly what it is if you know you are about to loose but your heart and soul will not give up. And right now, Israel is breeding more extremists just because they are backing people into a corner more and more. Tell me, if you have to build a wall, checkpoints and have to have an army standby 24-7 to protect you, are you truely a free human being? But I could say the same thing on Israel. " I understand the desperate need to protect and fight back". Hamas is throwing rockets on Israel that could kill thousands of innocent people also....Israel is fighting back. This isn't a statement you say in war. Both sides do mistakes. Both sides are not willing to compromise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 But I could say the same thing on Israel. " I understand the desperate need to protect and fight back". Hamas is throwing rockets on Israel that could kill thousands of innocent people also....Israel is fighting back. This isn't a statement you say in war. Both sides do mistakes. Both sides are not willing to compromise. Out of all things you took that one to high light? Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 i can see them on any news channel from both sides :) But you don't see them with your own eyes...in the place it really happens... You know...Mona Lisa is a beautiful painting on the computer or TV but Leonardo Da Vinci would surely have wanted you to see it as the real painting that still exists today. What you see from there is not what you see from here. Out of all things you took that one to high light? Really? You still didn't answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 But you don't see them with your own eyes...in the place it really happens... You know...Mona Lisa is a beautiful painting on the computer or TV but Leonardo Da Vinci would surely have wanted you to see it as the real painting that still exists today. What you see from there is not what you see from here. okay, this is now officially ridiculous. i can't keep going in circles. i do not agree with you at all. i will continue to support palestine and condemn israel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 THIS STUPID ISRAELI GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER STOP WHEN THE **** WILL IT FADE AWAY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Probably for collecting 10 WP... Oh, I really hope he will be back soon... I like him. :( MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 "They have to die and their houses should be demolished so that they cannot bear any more terrorists," Shaked said, adding, "They are all our enemies and their blood should be on our hands. This also applies to the mothers of the dead terrorists.†"Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there." "An Israeli woman said Palestinian mothers should be killed, too. And she's a member of the Israeli parliament. What is the difference between this mentality and Hitler's?" Erdogan asked. VILE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 okay, this is now officially ridiculous. i can't keep going in circles. i do not agree with you at all. i will continue to support palestine and condemn israel. Sure. But I would rather continue to strive for a better future for both of the sides. Not only one side. THIS STUPID ISRAELI GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER STOP WHEN THE **** WILL IT FADE AWAY When Hamas will fade away as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo 313 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You still didn't answer No it's you that didn't answer to anything but one point, one that actually you could turn the tables on again and I'm not participating on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzy 2,217 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 :wtf: “The scars on my mind are on Replay” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Sure. But I would rather continue to strive for a better future for both of the sides. Not only one side. When Hamas will fade away as well. at leats Hamas has been trying to free Palestine of the INVADERS that are the Israeli government stfu about them they are literally trying to push this stupid criminal away from a land that Palestine should RIGHTFULLY own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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