Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 yeah, ridiculous concept. disgusting actually, considering what it has caused and what basis it has in reality. who says i don't blame them or consider them complicit!? only you. The only thing that is ridiculous is your intolerance and the fact that you aren't willing to recognize that there are different opinions than yours. The Israelian government needs to stop being terrorists. They'll stop the war when the Hamas will stop it. As you see in the OP, Hamas is the one that rejected the Egypt Ceasefire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 The only thing that is ridiculous is your intolerance and the fact that you aren't willing to recognize that there are different opinions than yours.i recognise the opinion that there is a "special connection" with a strip of land that one can receive just by converting to the religion (something you can't do if you're an arab) and i laugh at it. because it is ridiculous and racist and jewish supremacist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 So you want to wipe out all the Jewish People from Israel? To where exactly? Plus, Palestine never really was a confirmed country by the UN. There were Arabs living here, yes. However, they didn't have their own confirmed country. But who said we can't live together? Why does it need to be only one of the sides. You cannot wipe out all of the Jewish people from Israel and you cannot wipe anybody from Israel including the Arabs. We live here and this is our land. The land belongs to the Jewish people, the Arabs that live here and the Palestinians. We can live together. Or like Gaga refers it...we could belong together. What really gives Israelis the right to have their own country there? What gives them the right to kill hundreds of people and injure thousands? What gives them the right to invade a country and over the years keep expanding their country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 i recognise the opinion that there is a "special connection" with a strip of land that one can receive just by converting to the religion (something you can't do if you're an arab) and i laugh at it. because it is ridiculous and racist and jewish supremacist. It's not that easy though. And it's again ridiculous to you. Doesn't mean it really is ridiculous. I think it's important to have a Jewish Country because history has shown what happened to the Jewish people in exile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It's not that easy though. And it's again ridiculous to you. Doesn't mean it really is ridiculous.I think it's important to have a Jewish Country because history has shown what happened to the Jewish people in exile.and history has now shown what happens when you have a jewish country :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 4,177 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It's not that easy though. And it's again ridiculous to you. Doesn't mean it really is ridiculous. I think it's important to have a Jewish Country because history has shown what happened to the Jewish people in exile. what haapened to jewish people before Isral was founded is the same that happens now to palestinians, marginalization an grab of land Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 The only thing that is ridiculous is your intolerance and the fact that you aren't willing to recognize that there are different opinions than yours. They'll stop the war when the Hamas will stop it. As you see in the OP, Hamas is the one that rejected the Egypt Ceasefire. This war is one-sided, really. It honestly is terrorism. Nobody's dying on the Israeli side, hundreds have died on the Palestinan side in the past month alone. 'oh my god he almost slapped me! Let's murder him out of self-defence!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 What really gives Israelis the right to have their own country there? What gives them the right to kill hundreds of people and injure thousands? What gives them the right to invade a country and over the years keep expanding their country? What really gives Israelis the right to have their own country? Their connection with the land is the same connection the Palestinians have to the land. Whether you will admit it or not, I don't care. If you want to wipe the Jewish people from Israel, you will fail really hard. What gives them the right to kill hundreds of people and injure thousands? Nothing gives them the right to do that just like NOTHING gives the Hamas the right to throw rockets and kidnap and kill innocent people. It's all just consequences of this conflict. Both sides need to stop the violence. Expand their country? May I remind you what happened in 2005? Here it is: Israeli disengagement from Gaza. The Israeli disengagement from Gaza , also known as "Gaza expulsion" and "Hitnatkut", was the withdrawal of the Israeli army from Gaza, and the dismantling of all Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip in 2005. Four small settlements in the northern West Bank were also evacuated.The disengagement was proposed by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, adopted by the government on June 6, 2004 and enacted in August 2005. Yet, Hamas conquered this area as well and now there is even more terror thanks to this move. This war is one-sided, really. It honestly is terrorism. Nobody's dying on the Israeli side, hundreds have died on the Palestinan side in the past month alone. 'oh my god he almost slapped me! Let's murder him out of self-defence!' Because of Israel's Iron Dome. You can't bring statistics to prove your point. It's not my fault Israel's defense system is really good. It still doesn't justify what Hamas is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 4,177 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 and what about the Golan Heights? and now Israel is making oil prospections in an occuped territory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 and history has now shown what happens when you have a jewish country :) You're right. The Jewish people are really safe now! So to answer you, you will fail hard if you want to wipe all the Jewish people from Israel because it won't happen. You want to sit and cry about it, sure. But I also care about the Palestinians and I would like to end the conflict and strive for a better future considering the consequences. In order to satisfy BOTH of the sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 You're right. The Jewish people are really safe now!so, jewish people outside israel are not safe? what on earth are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,125 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 This war shall never end. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 so, jewish people outside israel are not safe? what on earth are you talking about? Nope. History has shown this multiple of times that Antisemitism exists. This is just a case that happened a couple of days ago: A Jewish woman was on a JetBlue plane ready to fly back home to New York from Palm Beach International Airport, when she was suddenly removed. Dr. Lisa Rosenberg claims this was a hate crime. History has shown by far worst cases though. Again, you wan't to sit and cry about how the Jewish people don't belong in Israel? Sure. But I don't want to. I want to strive for a better future for both of the sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Nope. History has shown this multiple of times that Antisemitism exists. This is just a case that happened a couple of days ago: A Jewish woman was on a JetBlue plane ready to fly back home to New York from Palm Beach International Airport, when she was suddenly removed.Dr. Lisa Rosenberg claims this was a hate crime.okay. if you're really that paranoid i can't help you.i just googled it and you totally spun this into anti-semitism unsurprisingly when it actually arose from the israel palestine dispute.http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.com/2014/07/14/dear-dr-rosenberg-jetblue-didnt-throw-jewish-threw-racist-next/nice spin you put on it.so see? it's about ISRAEL. the jews are not safer because of the israel dispute, they are less safe, and now they have whole muslim/arab world having a grudge against them for what they are doing with their pirate state. we teach children about the holocaust and world war 2. this is enough to quell anti-semitism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 okay. if you're really that paranoid i can't help you. i just googled it and you totally spun this into anti-semitism unsurprisingly when it actually arose from the israel palestine dispute. http://flyingwithfish.boardingarea.com/2014/07/14/dear-dr-rosenberg-jetblue-didnt-throw-jewish-threw-racist-next/ nice spin you put on it. so see? it's about ISRAEL. the jews are not safer because of the israel dispute, they are less safe, and now they have whole muslim/arab world having a grudge against them for what they are doing with their pirate state. we teach children about the holocaust and world war 2. this is enough to quell anti-semitism. So here is another article for you: http://lubavitch.com/news/article/2031043/France-In-Face-of-Anti-Semitism-Jews-Deepen-Identity.html And it's probably not really enough if Anti-semitism still exists Whenever a country suffers from economic breakdowns, people look for people to blame. The Jews most of the time are the ones that are blamed. Btw, where do you live? I'm interested to know because I was assuming you're living near Israel (Lebanon,Jordan and those countries) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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