Melech 9,900 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 even those who convert to judaism at the age of 60 for example? they're descendants, are they? no those who were born jews. it's proved that born-jews share a genetically same ancestry. http://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/genetische-abstammung-abrahams-kinder/1860976.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 no those who were born jews. it's proved that born-jews share a genetically same ancestry. http://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/genetische-abstammung-abrahams-kinder/1860976.html "every jew is a descendant of abraham" - zacharias do jews who convert to judaism not have a right to live in israel, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 "every jew is a descendant of abraham" - zacharias do jews who convert to judaism not have a right to live in israel, then? sure they have. They will get into the huge family Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 sure they have. They will get into the huge family but they're not (alleged) descendants of abraham! so your whole ancestry/promise/covenant thing doesn't matter then. because all it takes is conversion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXCXSXE 0 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Can't say I agree with any religious text in this case. Just another example of how it tears people apart. :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 First you tell me i'm not a christian and now that I proved you wrong you are getting rude? You are the rude one. You are arguing against people who are standing up for human rights regardless of religion or ethnicity. You defend the heinous crimes against humanity by the Rothschild bankers who own Israel, all because you think they share your religious interests. If you open up to the truth of how the country known as "Israel" came to be, then you will see that this has nothing to do with religion at all. This is an issue of human rights threatened by greed and elitism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 You are the rude one. You are arguing against people who are standing up for human rights regardless of religion or ethnicity. You defend the heinous crimes against humanity by the Rothschild bankers who own Israel, all because you think they share your religious interests. If you open up to the truth of how the country known as "Israel" came to be, then you will see that this has nothing to do with religion at all. This is an issue of human rights threatened by greed and elitism. Now THATS antisemetic. I truly feel sorry for anyone who believes this ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Now THATS antisemetic. I truly feel sorry for anyone who believes this ****. Then prove me wrong. I come with facts, you come with nothing but labels you heard someone else say, and now you're just repeating like the parrot that you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Then prove me wrong. I come with facts, you come with nothing but labels you heard someone else say, and now you're just repeating like the parrot that you are. What facts? hell, your beliefs belongs with Europe's darkest times. Most of the Rotschilds aren't even Israelis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What facts? hell, your beliefs belongs with Europe's darkest times. Most of the Rotschilds aren't even Israelis. FACT: the treaty declaring Israel a country for Jews and beginning this mess, was signed at the Rothschild palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 FACT: the treaty declaring Israel a country for Jews and beginning this mess, was signed at the Rothschild palace FACT: this has nothing to do with what you previously said about "heinous crimes against humanity by the Rothschild bankers who own Israel". The Balfour Declaration, written by UK's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour, was handed to Walter Rothschild because he was a leader of the Jewish community in Britian at that moment. The declaration included no commitments or obligations of Britian to do anything, but it did include this: His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country Educate yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Educate yourself. I have educated myself. From a non-biased perspective. I learned the facts for myself several years ago and I have been passionate about it ever since. I look at the facts for myself, I don't just regurgitate someone else's words Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I have educated myself. From a non-biased perspective. I learned the facts for myself several years ago and I have been passionate about it ever since. I look at the facts for myself, I don't just regurgitate someone else's words Well it seems like you should check your sources if these are the facts you're talking about. There's a lot of bull**** out there. Many people jump into things without having any doubts. Use your brains, don't just hate on Israel because its trendy. Life is not black & white. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambrosia 3,775 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Another caution to please be respectful of each other in this thread. Do not do to others what angers you if done to you by others. -Socrates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXCXSXE 0 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 You are the rude one. You are arguing against people who are standing up for human rights regardless of religion or ethnicity. You defend the heinous crimes against humanity by the Rothschild bankers who own Israel, all because you think they share your religious interests. If you open up to the truth of how the country known as "Israel" came to be, then you will see that this has nothing to do with religion at all. This is an issue of human rights threatened by greed and elitism. Nnnnnn lets keep this away from conspiracy theories... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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