Dolev 867 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 How can any Jewish person be like this? After their past?? So Jews can't but Arabs are allowed to because? :excuseme: That's not even the right context of the words. Stop twisting for propaganda. It's been more than 60 years now, time to move over. Hate is not going to bring you anywhere. Israelis DO realize that they are ON WHAT WAS PALESTINE, Right??? Palestinians DO realize that they are on WHAT WAS THE KINGDOM OF JUDEA, Right???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Really? No, it's just your imagination! just a few weeks there was a demonstration against persecution of christians in Irak. Double standards? lol, I'll tell you what's double standards, when the EU/USA sanction Russia and can't even condemn what Israel is doing, that's double standards Hamas is attacking for more than 15 years? that's nothing compared to like 80 years of Israeli occupation. Singapore of the ME? , hahahahahaha, who believes this BS? How much money did Israel give to Gaza? Why doesn't Israle recognize Palestine? Is there a barrier surrounding Singapore? They promised to make it like a big prison. Let's not act like it is buzzing the same way. Really. You are getting ridiculous. I'm sorry I didn't know the Jewish State had no claims over these land. Please teach me more history master. Comparing Israel with Russia... IKR? We shouldn't believe the Palestinians when they said they are going to make Gaza the Singapore of the ME! and why is Israel suppose to give their enemy money? Like, really? Is Singapore firing rockets towards its neighbors? Israel does recognize the PLO. Is Israel suppose to recognize Hamas, a terror organization calling for Israel destruction? Answer yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 So Jews can't but Arabs are allowed to because? :excuseme: That's not even the right context of the words. Stop twisting for propaganda. It's been more than 60 years now, time to move over. Hate is not going to bring you anywhere. Palestinians DO realize that they are on WHAT WAS THE KINGDOM OF JUDEA, Right???? No one should, but after holocaust you would think these type of jews wouldn't exist. You hate being compared to Nazis in any way, but then you have these kind of people and you think it's ok?? This is not propaganda, I'd rather believe a jewish adult man who was there present than a 19 year old from GGD with Angela Cheng avi, sorry. Preach about hate to these people in protest, tbh. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 No one should, but after holocaust you would think these type of jews wouldn't exist. You hate being compared to Nazis in any way, but then you have these kind of people and you think it's ok?? This is not propaganda, I'd rather believe a jewish adult man who was there present than a 19 year old from GGD with Angela Cheng avi, sorry. Preach about hate to these people in protest, tbh. After the holocaust you think these type of people wouldn't exist. Stop with the double standards. The holocaust was a universal lesson for all people. You could find extremist in both sides but you'd rather put your focus on the Jewish one, tho the Hebrew context of their words is still arguably and they are really rare to see compared to the Muslim side. You'd rather believe someone who is a journalist for Muftah, a Middle Eastren site. My avi indicates nothing, but if that's the best argument you could come with, then I believe it says more about you than it says about me. Preach about hate to anyone who is hateful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 The Israelis do realize they are on the so called Palestine, but Palestine doesn't mean what you think it is this time. Palestine is a term that refers to the region on which the State of Israel was established; there was never a state by this name and this land was never controlled by "Palestinians." Therefore, it's only a matter of ethics whether it belongs to the Arabs or not. Palestine was always the name of that region, and just because there wasn't an independant palestinian state before the british colonization, it doesn't mean Palestinians didn't exist! Most of the Arab world was united under the ottoman empire, and to claim that Palestinians didn't exist is pure Bullsh*t, that region of the world has been continously inhabited for thousands and thousands of years, take the city of Damascus as an example. The state of Israel was established illegally on a colonized land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Let's not act like it is buzzing the same way. Really. You are getting ridiculous. I'm sorry I didn't know the Jewish State had no claims over these land. Please teach me more history master. Comparing Israel with Russia... IKR? We shouldn't believe the Palestinians when they said they are going to make Gaza the Singapore of the ME! and why is Israel suppose to give their enemy money? Like, really? Is Singapore firing rockets towards its neighbors? Israel does recognize the PLO. Is Israel suppose to recognize Hamas, a terror organization calling for Israel destruction? Answer yourself. Most of the time, your arguments are fallacious and misleading, but now you tottaly forgot to include them is PLO a country? I didn't know ^^ And why Israle must give Gaza money? because of all the desctruction and damage they did, and because you claim you really care about the civilians there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid 13 Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 You are a bit rude, since you're jumping to answer for him, even though I wasn't talking to you. What is wrong in advising him to listen to his own people who are for peace??? I have seen protests of Jews in different states of America, Britain, Israel etc. demanding from Israeli goverment to stop massacre of children, to end the occupation, they ask USA and UK to stop arming Israel, what is wrong with that? Are you hungry for war? And hundreds of thousands of people from all ethnic backrounds in streets of London, Madrid, CapeTown, Dublin etc. I haven't seen hundreds or thousands of Arabs demonstrating their support for Netanyahu tho. Anyway, this protest happened just today, so I didn't really repeat myself. And he is kind of new in this discussion, no one's gonna go back and re-read 140 pages. I know some of you call these on the video "self hating Jews", but they are right and you know it, deep down. That's why I said I'm not trying to be rude. And that is wrong because we have already discussed it and we have come to the conclusion that this argument is irrelevant, I could also advise you to do that, so? I'm not hungry for war, I'm hungry for the destruction of Hamas. Do you know why a lot of people blame Israel? because Hamas's stupid propaganda works. Please answer my following question: Do you think that Hamas thinks that it is able to win this war? Hamas KNOWS that it has no chance of winning. As you said, Hamas's rockets are cheap and do less damage than Israel's rockets. It's not a secret. So why does Hamas keeps breaking cease-fires? Why doesn't Hamas stop fighting? The answer is that Hamas wants the war to keep going so that more innocent civilians die. Hamas doesn't give a crap about Palestinian civilians, Hamas wants them to die so that people will blame Israel for everything, That's why Hamas stores rockets at schools and shoots rockets from hospitals. Hamas knows that making Israel look bad will get global attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Most of the time, your arguments are fallacious and misleading, but now you tottaly forgot to include them is PLO a country? I didn't know ^^ And why Israle must give Gaza money? because of all the desctruction and damage they did, and because you claim you really care about the civilians there Rude. So trying to insult me is your new way to handle my fine arguments? There's no one (atleast no western country) that recognize any other Palestinian group other than the PLO. Israel must give Gaza money because of the damage? as if any damage would have been done if Hamas was not provoking Israel. Find some better reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Oh my God, you are so ignorant. Stop assuming what I am and slandering me, you are the one who is brainwashed into thinking that the whole world hates all of Jews. When you attack and you kill, it's always someone else's fault. I do not hate all the Jews, I hate Israeli goverment and their army and I dislike everyone who justifies war crimes no matter what they are. Hamas is not any magician, they cannot "make people to think", people have own eyes and ears and brains. Israeli bombs are killing innocent people, educate yourself. Yes this is Gagadaily and Gaga is part of UN and humanitarian, the love which needs to be spread is towards Palestinians too, not to demonize them and dehumanize them like some of you are doing. No one here is required to spread love towards your government and its actions. Unless you're hasbara troll who is payed for it. Yes there are only 500, so what? Google Jews for peace and find other protests in other parts of the world. There were 150.000 on the streets of London, of all religions and backgrounds, not to support Hamas but to support Peace and end of occupation. But you would rather support war. That tells more about you. You can stop quoting me, as you are not adding anything smart to this discussion. We always blame others? Give me ONE example and we will see! War crimes? What war crimes? You probably mean to The Hamas' war crimes, that they are shooting rockets over us to kill citizens, while the IDF's target is terror places. Hamas is making people to think that way, while they are spreading photos to the world of dead people, that they killed... Think about it, if The Hamas is doing such a huge PR to the itself to show the world how bad Israel is, it means that they are try-hards, they are trying to cover the truth. You right, people have their own eyes, that they watch TV with, people have their own ears, that they listen to the radio with, and guess what? The TV and the readio is influenced by The Hamas' PR, and that is what they listen and watch, only one side. Israel bombing houses because these houses cover ammunition, and bombs as well. These bombs were meant to hurt the Israeli citizens, and before we bomb, we tell to the people, that the house is belonged to, to leave as fast as they can so they won't get hurt. I didn't ask you to spread love here towards me or towards the government, I really don't need YOUR love. So you're telling me that I support war? You assumed that because....? Well because of nothing, because I don't support war. You're like a little kid, states facts to yourself, facts that are comfortable for you.. I don't support war. And you can stop to act as a 4 years old boy and tell me that "I'm not adding anything smart to the conversation". It's a conversation, and of course you'll think my words are stupid, cause you can't face the truth lol. I didn't write it for you, I wrote it for the other people in here, that you shift to think that Israel is bad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 War crimes? What war crimes? He presumably means the ones the UN may be investigating, denying that is just nonsensical http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 and thats the problem with most of you, you say everything is propaganda, that being against genocide is the same as supporting hamas, and that anyone that doesnt agree with israel is antisemitic sorry but you are just a regular zionist that just goes in the same loop of excuses, the sentence i bolded is embarrassing, and that attittude is all i need to know that YOU are the ones educated to hate muslims, YOU are the ones who think that all muslims are terrorists and hate jews, you just proved it to us with that last sentence, and just in case you delete it, ill repost it: You are probably muslim, and muslims are educated to hate Jews, so I'm really not angry about you, that is not your fault that you hate me, and all of the Jews... I can't blame you. ...ridiculous... I won't delete it because I'm not afraid of my own words. So you're saying I hate Muslims? Bam, I don't! Surprise! You stated that we hate Muslims, I didn't say that. It's proved that in Arabic and Islamic countries the education is against Jews. Of course not all Muslims are terrorists, we have people who are part of the government that they are Muslims... David Sheen (@davidsheen) "1 people, 1 state, 1 leader": Counter-protestors at Tel Aviv anti-war rally last night waved signs with Nazi slogans http://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498370287453220864/photo/1 https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498370287453220864 David Sheen (@davidsheen) LEFT: Nazi poster calls for "1 people, 1 state, 1 leader"; RIGHT: Israelis hold sign with exact same words last night http://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498371275190845441/photo/1 https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498371275190845441 David Sheen (@davidsheen) Another shot of an Israeli holding a sign in Hebrew reading "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer"; with no sense of irony http://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498378445265453057/photo/1 https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498378445265453057 Unbelievable. Oh so now we are nazis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 You are not wrong. It doesn't matter, they were under British, Palestine is the name (first referred to by the Ancient Greeks) of an area in the Middle East situated between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. Palestinian land and their property was stolen and they know it. Notice "Palestine Post". Ownership? Arabs 'claim' any land that they occupy and practice religion. The demand for Israel to pull back to the 1967 borders rings hollow, since those borders and any part of Israel whatsoever are consider to be 'Arab' lands. Your own posts are proof enough. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Isn't it ironic how Israel started the 1967 war because Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran on their ships, but now think it's completely ok to impose a blockade on Gaza and build separation barriers? Depends on your point of view. Naval blockades are considered hostile military actions. Israel had/has a superior military ... They completely destroyed 6 combined nations at once. Saying Israel started it is a bit of a superficial view imo. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Current eventshttp://news.yahoo.com/renewed-fighting-jeopardizes-gaza-truce-efforts-010629074.htmlBasically, the civilian gov. of Palestine is trying to get Israel to stop their attacks.Israel says that rocket fire has continued into their kibbutz along the border.The area is an illegal settlement.Israel says that supplies and aid to Gaza are being used by militants to attack Israel.Netanyahu will not negotiate cease fire till rocket attacks stop.Many Palestinian civilians casualties and property damage.Pass no judgment, hope for a resolution ... 8-( like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UC PiXELVISION 353 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 So my last statement was a wittle bit off. But does Israel realize that they can intercept basically every missile from the developing country of Palestine, yet they don't have such technology? And that not all Palestinians support Hamas, and that the Israeli govt is grouping together all civilians as Hamas supporters and the statement that Israel doesn't kill civilians is TOTAL bullcrap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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