Israel - Palestine Conflict Discussion Thread

[EXCXSXE 0]

I think the mods should delete this thread. This thread did not yield a discussion, but a place for people to try to convert others to their own viewpoint. 

[Gomstre 2]

ughhh reported both of you for immature bs -_-

Yall really like to report stuff in this site

 

I've made two posts about it. They dragged this issue on and on so I said that if they shouldn't care about that then just don't care about it. That's it.

[lego 44,165]

I think the mods should delete this thread. This thread did not yield a discussion, but a place for people to try to convert others to their own viewpoint.

Yes you would like to sweep israeli war crimes under the rug, wouldn't you? First people complained about too many threads, now all of it should be deleted? No. Just off topic posts.

[EXCXSXE 0]

Yes you would like to sweep israeli war crimes under the rug, wouldn't you? First people complained about too many threads, now all of it should be deleted? No. Just off topic posts.

 

Nothing I said indicates my stance on the conflict.  ;)

Stop being so volatile.  :roll:

[AnaLucia95 2]

Yes you would like to sweep israeli war crimes under the rug, wouldn't you? First people complained about too many threads, now all of it should be deleted? No. Just off topic posts.

and propaganda stuff like yours 

[lego 44,165]

Nothing I said indicates my stance on the conflict.  ;)

Stop being so volatile.  :roll:

I've seen your posts before, "bowing emoticon" to one of Dolev's posts on this subject. I think it's pretty obvious.

But it doesn't matter, no need to ask mods for censorship. You can always stay away from the topic if it doesn't interest you. That's what I do.

and propaganda stuff like yours

You should go play with dolls or something. I'm posting real life happenings here, maybe you are not ready for it yet.

[lego 44,165]

Yousef Munayyer (@YousefMunayyer)

Spain has reportedly suspended arms sales to Israel

http://www.cadenaser.com/internacional/articulo/espana-suspende-venta-armas-israel/csrcsrpor/20140804csrcsrint_6/Tes

[EXCXSXE 0]

I've seen your posts before, "bowing emoticon" to one of Dolev's posts on this subject. I think it's pretty obvious.

But it doesn't matter, no need to ask mods for censorship. You can always stay away from the topic if it doesn't interest you. That's what I do.

You should go play with dolls or something. I'm posting real life happenings here, maybe you are not ready for it yet.

 

I don't think you should be reading through peoples past posts to create a quick opinion. It suggests you want an argument or ammo rather than a discussion.  :roll: And saying you've "seen my posts before" is awfully transparent - you clearly went through my recent posts since I've barely ever posted on this forum. 

 

I must urge you to stop being so defensive, though. It's really unfair for anyone who doesn't share your view point. 

[lego 44,165]

Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza and 'the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters'

Moshe Feiglin is Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Knesset

He posted the message on his Facebook page at the weekend

Plan includes shipping the people living in Gaza across the world

IDF would 'exterminate nests of resistance' as part of his plan

The Gaza war has left more than 1,800 Palestinians dead

An Israeli official has called for concentration camps in Gaza and ‘the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters’.

Moshe Feiglin, Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Knesset and member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party, posted the inflammatory message on his Facebook page at the weekend.

He lays out a detailed plan for the destruction of Gaza - which includes shipping its residents across the world - in a letter he addressed to the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The message, which received more than 2,000 likes on his page, lists four action points which he wants to be enforced as soon as possible.

Feiglin details the first one as 'defining the enemy' and states: 'The strategic enemy is extremist Arab Islam in all its varieties, from Iran to Gaza, which seeks to annihilate Israel in its entirety. The immediate enemy is Hamas. (Not the tunnels, not the rockets, but Hamas.)'

He says another important part of his plan is the 'conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters.'

The Gaza war, now in its fourth week, has left more than 1,800 Palestinians dead.

Feiglin details how he wants the Israeli PM 'to turn Gaza into Jaffa, a flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians.'

In 1948 Jaffa was a Palestinian town but there was an exodus of most of its Arab population when it fell to the fledgling Israeli army and right-wing Jewish militias.

In the letter he expresses his desire for the IDF to find areas on the Sinai border to establish 'tent encampments...until relevant emigration destinations are determined.'

He says that the supply of electricity and water to the Gaza would be disconnected before being 'shelled with maximum fire power.'

Feiglin explains how the IDF would then 'exterminate nests of resistance, in the event that any should remain.'

Establish 'tent encampments...until relevant emigration destinations are determined'

Part of his plan includes shipping the people living in Gaza across the world.

He says to encourage the movement those who willingly agree to emigrate will be given 'a generous economic support package.'

But those who resist leaving their home will be required to publicly sign a declaration of loyalty to Israel, and receive a blue ID card similar to that of the Arabs of East Jerusalem.

Then Israeli law will be extended to cover the entire Gaza Strip and 'the city of Gaza and its suburbs will be rebuilt as true Israeli touristic and commercial cities.'

A second Gaza ceasefire collapsed in just six minutes this morning after an Israeli F16 jet destroyed a house in a beach-side refugee camp, killing an eight-year-old girl and wounding dozens.

Israel announced the temporary ceasefire to facilitate the entry of humanitarian aid and allow some of the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians displaced by an almost four-week-old war to go home.

Hamas said it would not be observing the truce, and warned people to exercise extreme caution when venturing out onto the streets after earlier temporary ceasefire arrangements collapsed into a frenzy of bloodshed.

Feiglin’s Facebook page is verifiable as it is linked from his official page on the Knesset website.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715466/Israeli-official-calls-concentration-camps-Gaza-conquest-entire-Gaza-Strip-annihilation-fighting-forces-supporters.html

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/04/israeli-deputy-speaker-proposes-solution-for-palestinians-concentration-camps-and-extermination/

http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/141870/israeli-official-calls-for-concentration-camps-in-gaza

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5621667

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/08/03/israel-genocide-and-the-logic-of-zionism/

No words...

[AnaLucia95 2]

and propaganda stuff like yours 

 

Well, you post one sided, mostly fake reports though. 

Also that your last posts source was Daily Mail

[Zilla 13,451]

Stop arguing. If you can't discuss this matter maturely and respectfully, you leave us no choice but to give heavy warnings and lock the thread.

Everyone has beliefs so there's no need for the BS.

[Woolfsmck 2,763]

Stop arguing. If you can't discuss this matter maturely and respectfully, you leave us no choice but to give heavy warnings and lock the thread.
Everyone has beliefs so there's no need for the BS.

 

 

 

I don 't see much acknowledgment to each other's points... Lego is simply damning Israel's every move, and non-Hamas supporters are trying to offer reasons for Israel's actions, like what Hamas is doing ect.

[MonsterMum 2,532]

Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza and 'the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters'

No words...

 

It's like history repeating itself

Warsaw Ghetto re-incacted by Israel and Palestinians.

 

"All that is required for evil to exist is for good men to do nothing".

[Shadow 6,697]

Everyone needs to calm down and try to put down the mental armor to at least hear how the other side feels about the issue without slander or dismissing the points of others without explaining themselves.  Everyone deserves a chance to speak for themselves.  

[Dolev 867]

Seems like lego is so busy reposting propaganda that he forgot to bring us some actual news. Both sides accepted egyptian cease fire plan.

More information:

Israel and Hamas on Monday accepted an Egyptian cease-fire proposal meant to halt a bruising monthlong war that has claimed nearly 2,000 lives, raising hopes that the bloodiest round of fighting between the bitter enemies could finally be coming to an end.

Still, both sides signaled a rough road ahead, with an Israeli official expressing skepticism given previous failures, and a Palestinian negotiator saying "it's going to be tough."

A last-minute burst of violence, including a deadly Palestinian attack in Jerusalem, continued bloodshed in Gaza and the reported execution of a number of suspected collaborators with Israel, served as reminders of the lingering risk of renewed violence.

After weeks of behind-the-scenes diplomacy, Israel and Hamas both announced late Monday that they had accepted the proposal for a preliminary 72-hour truce, beginning at 8 a.m. (0500 GMT) Tuesday. Egypt was then set to host indirect talks to work out a long-term truce over the next three days.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israel-hamas-accept-egyptian-cease-fire-plan-24838003

 

I might sound naive, but I hope the future agreements will prevent Hamas from firing rockets into Israel anymore so we will see no more escalations. Time for Hamas to drop its weapons and start talking diplomacy.