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AnaLucia95

But Israel has high technology weapons, and they can precisely choose their targets, use drones...etc. It's not some hand made stuff like what's teh Palestians are using. Also, I can understand if 5 or 10 children die by "accident", but 400! that just doesn't make sense. Here is the example of the 4 children killed on the beach, in front of journalists from all over the world http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/07/16/what-happened-when-palestinian-children-were-killed-in-front-of-a-hotel-full-of-journalists/

 

Also, the excuse that they warn people prior to firing is just lame; because Gaza is basically a prison, it's a really tiny portion of land and people can't go anywhere. Also, if they leave Gaza, they can be sure that they will never return, Israel has been doing that for more than 60 years now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iqrit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafr_Bir%27im

 

A good idea would be that Hamas stops attacking Israel

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wow glad this war is being handled by mature adults over something totally worth it................................

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Ashes, ashes, they're all fall down....

 

Annie  :wub:

 

But Israel has high technology weapons, and they can precisely choose their targets, use drones...etc. It's not some hand made stuff like what's teh Palestians are using. Also, I can understand if 5 or 10 children die by "accident", but 400! that just doesn't make sense. Here is the example of the 4 children killed on the beach, in front of journalists from all over the world http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/07/16/what-happened-when-palestinian-children-were-killed-in-front-of-a-hotel-full-of-journalists/

 

Also, the excuse that they warn people prior to firing is just lame; because Gaza is basically a prison, it's a really tiny portion of land and people can't go anywhere. Also, if they leave Gaza, they can be sure that they will never return, Israel has been doing that for more than 60 years now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iqrit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafr_Bir%27im

 

 

You can read about the hitory of the conflict too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

 

Israel can choose the target, but it's never 100% chances of striking at the target tho.

Children die, that's true, but it's never on purpose. They die because Hamas is storing rockets at these children's houses, and builds tunnels in and under their houses. Israel has to destroy these houses and warns the civilians, but Hamas tells the civilians to ignore it. 

 

 

Yea but it's one thing to target people in general and say that Israel is targeting children.  You know what I mean?  This is a war and obviously people of all ages will get hurt.   And did they purposely target a hospital or did a missile just strike there?  I don't know if that was on purpose or not.  Hamas has some blame as well because they did choose to ignore the ceasefire at one moment.  And like others have been posting, didn't the Israeli govt. warn Palestinians to get out of the war zone?  I'm just trying to get educated on both sides here.

 

If you want to get educated on this situation I suggest you read on wikipedia, it's the most legit and non-biased source I know :)

Try to ignore propaganda, it's mostly exaggerated / fake.

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But Israel has high technology weapons, and they can precisely choose their targets, use drones...etc. It's not some hand made stuff like what's teh Palestians are using. Also, I can understand if 5 or 10 children die by "accident", but 400! that just doesn't make sense. Here is the example of the 4 children killed on the beach, in front of journalists from all over the world http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/07/16/what-happened-when-palestinian-children-were-killed-in-front-of-a-hotel-full-of-journalists/

 

Also, the excuse that they warn people prior to firing is just lame; because Gaza is basically a prison, it's a really tiny portion of land and people can't go anywhere. Also, if they leave Gaza, they can be sure that they will never return, Israel has been doing that for more than 60 years now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iqrit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafr_Bir%27im

 

 

You can read about the hitory of the conflict too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

Well yea, and there's even more adults that have been killed.  That's what happens when the Hamas continue to fight the Israelis.  It's not really an excuse either.  Either leave or be killed.  The people have a terrible decision to make, but if there really are warnings...  But I do understand that Israel has been taking Palestinian land since 1948.  

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Well yea, and there's even more adults that have been killed.  That's what happens when the Hamas continue to fight the Israelis.  It's not really an excuse either.  Either leave or be killed.  The people have a terrible decision to make, but if there really are warnings...  But I do understand that Israel has been taking Palestinian land since 1948.  

Do you think Israel is fighting the Hamas in order to annex Gaza? Israel has already gave it to the PA and recognized them as Gaza's government. You may read what I wrote here earlier:

 

Israel did give Gaza to the Palestinian Authority, but they lost the control over it after their conflict with the Hamas that rejected and broke agreements between the PA, Israel and Egypt. It was also threatening to carry out terrorist acts in Israel, and that what made Israel to declare Gaza as an enemy zone and to impose the blockade on it after Hamas had taken over it.
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Do you think Israel is fighting the Hamas in order to annex Gaza? Israel has already gave it to the PA and recognized them as Gaza's government. You may read what I wrote here earlier:

No, I don't.  I'm talking about the war and violence.

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Do you think Israel is fighting the Hamas in order to annex Gaza? Israel has already gave it to the PA and recognized them as Gaza's government. You may read what I wrote here earlier:

They have already taken the majority of land; it's called the Gaza "Strip" for a reason ^^

But what is sure, is that Israel wants Gaza to die slowly, by asphyxiating its economy: they control everything, borders, airspace, exports, imports, money exchange....do you know that workers in Gaza don't even get paid because of that?

And even if there are no proofs they are trying to annex Gaza right now, the colonization machine is working elsewhere, and they have a long history with that:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

United Nations,Russia, the United Kingdom,,the European Union,and the United States their biggest ally condemned that.

 

 

Israel can choose the target, but it's never 100% chances of striking at the target tho.

Children die, that's true, but it's never on purpose. They die because Hamas is storing rockets at these children's houses, and builds tunnels in and under their houses. Israel has to destroy these houses and warns the civilians, but Hamas tells the civilians to ignore it. 

 

 

No it's 99% accurate, I've seen videos of that and they can choose to bomb an exact certain building, while the ones next to it remain intact.

And for the last time: Gaza is a prison, people have nowhere to escape. Plus it's Israel their enemy, it's Israel who have stolen their land...they sure don't think Israel now cares about them or their lives.

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Lets try reverse IDF propaganda

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There was no Palestinian state at 1947. There was no Palestinian state, never. Try again. Jewish people have historical rights over these lands. Lets not act like Hamas even cares about the Palestinian people.  :toofunny:

 

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There was no Palestinian state at 1947. There was no Palestinian state, never. Try again. Jewish people have historical rights over these lands. Lets not act like Hamas even cares about the Palestinian people.  :toofunny:

 

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You are such an idiot, those images are answer to those IDF propaganda leaflets. Can't you read? There was no Israeli state either, there was Israeli tribe, TRIBE, then you invited all your convert brothers from Russia, Europe, USA, because you are "promissed nation".

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Homeland since BCE? lol, still faaar from being unanimously proven; actually only Israelis believe that ^^, while it's well documented how the jews arrived in numbers to Palestine in the 1900s, from Russia, Europe, and were even  brought from Arab countries in the 50s/60s.

You are so uneducated its almost amazing  :toofunny:

 

On another topic,

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This screenshot from a page called "I Hate Israel" shows an Israeli soldier kissing his boyfriend at the 2010 Pride parade in Jerusalem. In an attempt to spark hatred towards Israel, the page calls the IDF a 'Gay Army', encouraging its followers to share the image.

So I'm sharing the image too for everyone to know what Israel and its soldiers - gay/straight - currently fight against: NOT the Palestinians! NOT Gaza! ISRAEL IS FIGHTING TERROR!

Hamas is a terror organisation who is against giving any rights or education to women, supports the killing of homos-xuals, using animals as a 'living-weapon' while attaching demolition charges to their bodies, and it's one and only motto is: "We love death more than the Israelis love life!"

I would like to emphasise that my heart goes out to every innocent life that was lost in Gaza, and my heart aches for every Israeli soldier who lost their lives in the fight. I pray for the fighting to stop as soon as possible and that no more lives will be lost to terror!

Let us all pray for peace. Amen, ×מן.
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No it's 99% accurate, I've seen videos of that and they can choose to bomb an exact certain building, while the ones next to it remain intact.

And for the last time: Gaza is a prison, people have nowhere to escape. Plus it's Israel their enemy, it's Israel who have stolen their land...they sure don't think Israel now cares about them or their lives.

 

Of course it's a prison, but is it Israel's fault? no

 

Israel didn't stole land - Israel belongs to the Zionists, but of course we won't agree about it

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You are such an idiot, those images are answer to those IDF propaganda leaflets. Can't you read? There was no Israeli state either, there was Israeli tribe, TRIBE, then you invited all your convert brothers from Russia, Europe, USA, because you are "promissed nation".

 

You've got to stop, ancient history teaches us a lot, Palestine has always been the name of a territory claimed by muslims from Jordan and Syria who at some time lived in Jerusalem and cities around it, and Yishuv were original jews living there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yishuv). You should know that there was no "Palestine" as a state ever before 1988, so if anything the conflict between Israel and Palestine has been beneficial.

 

(Palestine the territory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine, Palestine the state http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine)

 

Problem is, this whole story is about a territory, not a religion, so what gets me mad is countries around Palestine that act like it's something for Allah and get all excited. Allah if ever existed is probably laughing his a$$ off at people killing each other.

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Of course it's a prison, but is it Israel's fault? no

 

Israel didn't stole land - Israel belongs to the Zionists, but of course we won't agree about it

1- Of course it's a prison, but is it Israel's fault? Yes, go to point 2

2- Israel didn't stole land - Israel belongs to the Zionists, but of course we won't agree about it. Nor will history agree, it is well documented how the jews illegally mass immigrated to Palestine in the the 30s : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

What proves Israel belongs to the? the bible? hahahahahahaha

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