DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hamas is a non-governmental organization fighting for Gaza, without which Gaza would have been an Israelian territory. Ok, so are they pro-Palestine then? Are the Palestinians even fighting? And I've heard that they're using them as shields to blame Israel for killing innocent people. I'm not quite sure what to believe right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Genicode- the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation. It is not a genicode. It is 100% a defense operation. What other country in the world would let terrorists throw rockets 24/7 on them? Israel is not killing innocent people deliberately. The purpose is to destroy the Hamas that is preventing from peace. As far as I know the UN is still going to be investigating Israel for war crimes, that's still pretty serious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hamas is a non-governmental organization fighting for Gaza, without which Gaza would have been an Israelian territory. Completely not true though. Did you hear about The Israeli disengagement from Gaza? also known as "Gaza expulsion", was the withdrawal of the Israeli army from Gaza, and the dismantling of all Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip in 2005. Four small settlements in the northern West Bank were also evacuated. Did that help? Nope. The terror continues. Israel doesn't want Gaza. What they do want though is to save the citizens of Israel and Hamas is a big obstacle in order to achieve safety for both of the sides: Israelis and Palestinians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I'm going to talk to the mods about only allowing non-biased articles to be posted in the World News section. I've noticed with the Palestine situation a lot of biased articles, and then the OP will just bold the things he wants people to see. This is so manipulative and wrong. If you are going to post 'news', then post REAL NEWS, not propaganda intended to manipulate our thoughts about something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Can someone please explain to me the significance of HAMAS and where they stand in regards to Palestine. You're going to get different definitions depending on which side people are on. Hamas is one of two political parties under the Palestinian National Authority (the UN recognized head of the Palestinian state that votes in the UN General Assembly). The party is the Fatah party which controls the West Bank. Hamas controls the Gaza strip. Hamas and Israel have never gotten along because of Hamas's weapons acquisitions as seen in the 206-2007 conflicts that occurred around the time Hamas and Fatah parties split. That's all I really know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomstre 2 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hamas is a non-governmental organization fighting for Gaza, without which Gaza would have been an Israelian territory. Without it Gaza would have been under the control of the Palestinian Authority. I'm going to talk to the mods about only allowing non-biased articles to be posted in the World News section. I've noticed with the Palestine situation a lot of biased articles, and then the OP will just bold the things he wants people to see. This is so manipulative and wrong. If you are going to post 'news', then post REAL NEWS, not propaganda intended to manipulate our thoughts about something. I'm not gonna say my thought on the mods 'cause I don't wanna get banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Ok, so are they pro-Palestine then? Are the Palestinians even fighting? And I've heard that they're using them as shields to blame Israel for killing innocent people. I'm not quite sure what to believe right now. The Hamas are pro-palestine, yes! But they are trying to achieve their goal in the WRONG way. Risking the Palestinian people themselves. Israel has accused Hamas of using children as human shields. The Israeli government released video footage in which it claims two militants are shown grabbing a young boy's arm from behind holding him to walk in front of them toward a group of people waiting near a wall. The IDF argues the militants were placing the boy between themselves and an Israeli sniper. The second scene shows an individual, described as a terrorist, grabbing a school boy off of a floor, where he is hiding behind a column from IDF fire, and using him as a human shield to walk to a different location. On 10 July the UN released a situation report which deplored the civilian casualties but added: “In most cases, prior to the attacks, residents have been warned to leave, either via phone calls by the Israel military or by the firing of warning missiles.†But the Hamas-run Palestinian Authority’s Ministry of Interior has told residents not to pay attention to the IDF warnings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 For those who say "hamas is killing innocent people" According to the UN: http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_sitrep_28_07_2014.pdf - 999 Palestinians killed: 760 civilians, of whom 226 are children and 117 are women. - 6,233 Palestinians injured, including 1,949 children and 1,160 women. - 46 Israelis killed, including two civilians and 43 soldiers, in addition to one foreign national. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Define terrorism, fighting for own territory? I would tear you apart for that comment, but it looks like my fellow member already took you to school Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomstre 2 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 For those who say "hamas is killing innocent people" According to the UN: http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_sitrep_28_07_2014.pdf - 999 Palestinians killed: 760 civilians, of whom 226 are children and 117 are women. - 6,233 Palestinians injured, including 1,949 children and 1,160 women. - 46 Israelis killed, including two civilians and 43 soldiers, in addition to one foreign national. Are you implying it is because Hamas doesn't aim to kill Israelis civilians? Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hamas is a non-governmental organization fighting for Gaza, without which Gaza would have been an Israelian territory. Incorrect, the Palestinian Authority was recognized as the government of Gaza in 1994, long before Hamas began fighting against the Fatah party in 2006-7 and orchestrating numerous human rights violations during that time period. Since then they've been acquiring weapons and firing them at Israel. Who is more in the right here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Ok, so are they pro-Palestine then? Are the Palestinians even fighting? And I've heard that they're using them as shields to blame Israel for killing innocent people. I'm not quite sure what to believe right now. The claim that they are using people as shield is a big lie made by Israel to try to get some sympathy. Just yesterday someone was posting a fake video that was not even from Gaza! Hamas is a resitance movement, Israel does not recognize Palestine, and so does the US and the UN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 *You guys know you can be Pro - Palestine and not stand by the Hamas, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 The claim that they are using people as shield is a big lie made by Israel to try to get some sympathy. Just yesterday someone was posting a fake video that was not even from Gaza! Hamas is a resitance movement, Israel does not recognize Palestine, and so does the US and the UN. Israel did recognize Palestine The Israeli government has accepted in general the idea that a Palestinian state is to be established. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Are you implying it is because Hamas doesn't aim to kill Israelis civilians? Pathetic. The numbers speak for themselves honey, I'll tell you what's pathetic; defending a country that kills children who were playing on the beach that's pathetic and sad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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