Tropico 4,145 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Wow. I actually don't visit this section of GGD much but I didn't know the discussions were so... Advanced here. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Ok What's really worrying is *how far can you go supporting your terrorist organization! It's funny because you don't even have any nice words to say about the people who die in Israel right now and you just keep searching for lame excuses, and I guess the majority of those who watch it all on news are just like you! sad! In the last 5 days, since GagaDaily became GazaDaily, I only accused one person of anti semetisem, responding to his ludicrous comparisons between the current situation and the holocaust. Your argument is invalid. Palestine never existed, like it or not - its a fact. A partition plan was given by the UN, Arabs refused then lost the war they started and ran away. They can only blame themselves and their leaders for what happend. Marwan Qawasmeh & Amer Abu Aisha, people of Hamas, are wanted by Israel for kidnaping and killing 3 Israeli teenagers. They should blame their selves because their properties were stolen? that's your argument? Their private homes and private ITEMS were literally taken away from them, can i get any more specific? Was it really a shocker for anyone to refuse under these conditions? "Their reason was that it violated the principles of national self-determination in the UN charter which granted people the right to decide their own destiny." THEN the civil war broke out from both sides, there wasn't a side that "started" it. Palestine was recognized as a state in 2012 by UN. As of 27 September 2013, 134 (69.4%) of the 193 member states of the United Nations have recognised the State of Palestine. Many of the countries that do not recognise the State of Palestine nevertheless recognise the PLO as the "representative of the Palestinian people". On 29 November 2012, the UN General Assembly passed a motion changing Palestine's "entity" status to "non-member observer state" by a vote of 138 to 9, with 41 abstentions. - I'm far from supporting Hamas, I just wanted to point that out before you use that against me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence 244 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It's a bit hard not to when one side is at a ridiculously large disadvantage compared to the other, as the death/destruction statistics and facts prove. It's still a two sided conflict with historical context...not an unprovoked massacre as many choose to believe If people want to be diplomatic about this, they need to account for everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 For everyone saying Gaza uses children as shields.. Gaza is 45 km long & 5-12 km wide and its one of the most densely populated places on earth, there is no open space or mountains to hide.. ^This It really makes me laugh when the pro Israel say Israel sends warning to the people of Gaza so they can leave the place! They literally have nowhere left to go, all their land was stolen; unless maybe if they jump to the sea. disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-5Q7yuaXjM hmmm The use of this gif shows a lot about your miserable attitude. One day you will be drowning in your cynicism... MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 How can anyone have power when half the countries are just an anarchic mess (Syria, Iraq, Libya). Probabaly Palestine would be the same if there were no Jews there. Unless it was lucky enough to have a military dictatorship like Egypt (who hate Hamas too). Well oil is probably the main thing. The US or any other country that keeps an eye on that is crucial to them. It's also to not have the Arab states come together as one again. Making the ME a powerful area. Obviously the US doesn't want that. I learned a lot in my Middle Eastern culture class. Lots of Palestinian students and such. I actually encourage EVERYONE to take such a class if they are in college. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Israel has really shown some extreme cases of racism in the past month too. Israel claims that its a democratic state, which means its supposed to support a full equality to all its citizens under law. But whats not shown is that Israel's democracy is unsymmetrical and biased. A) Arabs employees have been fired because of their political opinions, no Jewish employees were fired so far, even if their political opinions support discrimination to the Arab community in Israel - put in mind ; a democratic country - EVERYONE is equal. B ) Members of the Kenest, the Parliament ; Arab members (extreme - radical lefts) of the Kenest have been bashed by the media, Jewish citizens and others for being outrageous which leads into making a HUGE buzz in Israel, yet other Jewish members of the Kenest who act just as bad or make statements that are inhuman, are not even being heavily reported or bashed by the media or normal citizens (on the same scale), no one is raising the an eyebrow, no one is making a sound, why?...why? I just want to point out that I don't support some Arab Parliament members and their ways, Like Khanin Zoabi's, just like I don't support statements or acts that were done by radical right members, such as Eli Yishai, Liberman (Israel's Foreign Minister!!), Gilad Sharon, Micheal Ben - Ari, Avi Dichter, Israel Katz, Rabbi Yakkov Yosef, etc... list goes on and on. C) Protests ; HUGE "death to Arabs" protests held by the radical rights citizens INSIDE Israel are not even making a buzz in Israeli media, you may ask why? because its sort of become a norm in Israeli society and media! while "death to Jews" from international protests make bigger headlines, lures the media's attention, where's the equality again? That's the propaganda for you, the complete hypocrisy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyPunkLover 2,120 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Ok What's really worrying is *how far can you go supporting your terrorist organization! It's funny because you don't even have any nice words to say about the people who die in Israel right now and you just keep searching for lame excuses, and I guess the majority of those who watch it all on news are just like you! sad! In the last 5 days, since GagaDaily became GazaDaily, I only accused one person of anti semetisem, responding to his ludicrous comparisons between the current situation and the holocaust. Your argument is invalid. Palestine never existed, like it or not - its a fact. A partition plan was given by the UN, Arabs refused then lost the war they started and ran away. They can only blame themselves and their leaders for what happend. Marwan Qawasmeh & Amer Abu Aisha, people of Hamas, are wanted by Israel for kidnaping and killing 3 Israeli teenagers. Keep lolling while your people keep killing children playing soccer. This is coming back to you, you'll see And BTW i had no doubt that you don't even have a valid argoument to answer. Keep on with your lies. One day you'll wake up and see that Israel will suffer for what os happening. "Just because you know my name, doesn't mean you know my game" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It's still a two sided conflict with historical context...not an unprovoked massacre as many choose to believe If people want to be diplomatic about this, they need to account for everything I agree. BUT... It may not be unprovoked but it's a massacre nonetheless, and THAT'S where the problem lies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hamas is attacking israeli cities and they are not even allowed to defend themselves? Don't you know why they're attacking, though? :megaflop: On-topic: Great thread Essential information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hamas is attacking israeli cities and they are not even allowed to defend themselves? By killing children who are only affiliated w/ Hamas because they're Palestinian? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 nice conspiracy you got there. Well, it was written by an Israeli though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It's still a two sided conflict with historical context...not an unprovoked massacre as many choose to believe If people want to be diplomatic about this, they need to account for everything Anyone who thinks this is an unprovoked massacre must have a really short memory; in fact that's exactly what Israel wants. During 2008-2009 war,1 315 Palestinians were killed, 410 children. 160 were killed in the 2012 war; and every now an then there are incidents where people die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 he only reason hamas are in power is because the palestinian people do not have the means to form their own sovereign independent forms of self-governance when they are being sieged, displaced and pushed in the most densely populated region in the earth (with airstrikes and chemical weapons falling on it constantly) with barely any food or clean water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence 244 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Anyone who thinks this is an unprovoked massacre must have a really short memory; in fact that's exactly what Israel wants. During 2008-2009 war,1 315 Palestinians were killed, 410 children. 160 were killed in the 2012 war; and every now an then there are incidents where people die. Two sided conflict Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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