garnite 8 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I could say the same about the Palestinians though. The Jewish people lived in Israel first according to the bible. Yet, I am not trying to find who is Israel's owner. What I am trying to find is peace. 2 countries is in my opinion the best option for peace and I don't think I'll change my mind sorry. the bible. okay yeah, we're done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 the bible. okay yeah, we're done. This just shows you aren't willing to even listen to what the other person has to say. There is historic evidence that the Jewish people lived once in Israel because of archaeological evidence. You can ignore it and keep thinking in your narrow minded mind but I don't give a ****. I focus on peace. Both sides should listen to eachother and to eachother's problems. You are a proof for someone who rejects to listen to other opinions. I was talking nice to you but you were the one with the idiotic sarcastic unnecessary comments of like: "okay yeah. we're done" which show nothing but how you are not willing to even listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 This just shows you aren't willing to even listen to what the other person has to say. There is historic evidence that the Jewish people lived once in Israel because of archaeological evidence. You can ignore it and keep thinking in your narrow minded mind but I don't give a ****. I focus on peace. Both sides should listen to eachother and to eachother's problems. You are a proof for someone who rejects to listen to other opinions. I was talking nice to you but you were the one with the idiotic sarcastic unnecessary comments of like: "okay yeah. we're done" which show nothing but how you are not willing to even listen. you keep saying that even though i indulged you for ages. that's insulting. it doesn't show that. i just think using the bible as evidence is futile, and, most importantly! you made no further points for me to respond to. so yes, we are done. you didn't say anything i can respond to. i have read and responded to everything else. repeating i am not willing to listen is not winning you the argument because it's not true. i've demonstrated that i am. you can't take comments you deem unnecessary at the end and say OH LOOK YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO LISTEN YOU WILL NEVER LEARN! because that's slanting it in your favour. you really said nothing i want to respond to, and once we go biblical, imo, we go into very silly territory and i am certainly at this point in time not willing to go down that root so yes, i sincerely think we are done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 you keep saying that even though i indulged you for ages. that's insulting. it doesn't show that. i just think using the bible as evidence is futile, and, most importantly! you made no further points for me to respond to. so yes, we are done. you didn't say anything i can respond to. i have read and responded to everything else. repeating i am not willing to listen is not winning you the argument because it's not true. i've demonstrated that. You are saying archaeological evidence is not real evidence. It's not only the bible. archaeological evidence was found and it is proven that the Jewish People lived in Israel once. You're making me laugh tbh but keep on denying the reality if you wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 You are saying archaeological evidence is not real evidence. It's not only the bible. archaeological evidence was found and it is proven that the Jewish People lived in Israel once. quote me where i said anything remotely similar to that that :') i wanna see your source! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 quote me where i said anything remotely similar to that that :') i wanna see your source! So wait, are you not denying the fact that the Jewish People really did indeed live in Israel once before they were sent in Exile? I want to understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 You are saying archaeological evidence is not real evidence. It's not only the bible. archaeological evidence was found and it is proven that the Jewish People lived in Israel once. You're making me laugh tbh but keep on denying the reality if you wish. *Lets say yes, Jewish people did live in Israel once, what's your point? how is that relevant to anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 So wait, are you not denying the fact that the Jewish People really did indeed live in Israel once before they were sent in Exile? I want to understand. please show me where i said anything contrary to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Lets say yes, Jewish people did live in Israel once, what's your point? how is that relevant to anything? It's relevant because I feel like both, Israeli and Palestinian people deserve to be in Israel and 2 countries in 1 territory seems to me the best option knowing the history. please show me where i said anything contrary to that. Answer to me first. Are you not denying the fact that the Jewish People really did indeed live in Israel once before they were sent in Exile? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 It's relevant because I feel like both, Israeli and Palestinian people deserve to be in Israel and 2 countries in 1 territory seems to me the best option knowing the history. Answer to me first. Are you not denying the fact that the Jewish People really did indeed live in Israel once before they were sent in Exile? i am absolutely NOT going answer you first when you say i said that archaeological evidence is not real evidence without showing me where i made such a statement. hint: i did not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 i am absolutely NOT going answer you first when you say i said that archaeological evidence is not real evidence without showing me where i made such a statement. hint: i did not. When I said that according to the bible: The jewish people lived in Israel in the past...you've said: " oh yeah. we're done here". I took it as like you don't believe it You don't believe the Jewish people lived in Israel in the past, that's what I understood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 It's relevant because I feel like both, Israeli and Palestinian people deserve to be in Israel and 2 countries in 1 territory seems to me the best option knowing the history. Answer to me first. Are you not denying the fact that the Jewish People really did indeed live in Israel once before they were sent in Exile? *Where were they when they stole the land though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 When I said that according to the bible: The jewish people lived in Israel in the past...you've said: " oh yeah. we're done here". I took it as like you don't believe it You don't believe the Jewish people lived in Israel in the past, that's what I understood. i already explained why i said that in a lengthy post that you replied to before i edited it. i suggest you check it again. purely using the bible as an argument is futile in my opinion.and not believing the bible is a good basis for an argument has nothing to do with not believing archaeology is real evidence or that i believe the jewish people never lived in israel. you are running miles with things i didn't say or imply. the bible is not archaeology. if you want to talk archaeology, talk archaeology. leave the bible out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronlop 6,882 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Where were they when they stole the land though? They were in Exile. But the whole discussion is about who is the owner of Israel when the true fact is that no one is. The Jewish People lived in Israel in the past, then Palestinian lived in Israel and now the Jewish People live in Israel but the arabs that didn't run away still are in Israel and count as Israelis. What I truly think is that Israel belongs to both: Jewish and Palestinian. Will they live together? That's a different question. I personally believe that they should live in seperate countries that will support eachother's economy and so on i already explained why i said that in a lengthy post that you replied to before i edited it. i suggest you check it again. purely using the bible as an argument is futile in my opinion.and not believing the bible is a good basis for an argument has nothing to do with not believing archaeology is real evidence or that i believe the jewish people never lived in israel. you are running miles with things i didn't say or imply. the bible is not archaeology. if you want to talk archaeology, talk archaeology. leave the bible out of it. Okay, so I'm leaving the bible out of it. Archaeology evidence is alright? Now do you believe the Jewish People did live in Israel in the past? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 They were in Exile. But the whole discussion is about who is the owner of Israel when the true fact is that no one is. The Jewish People lived in Israel in the past, then Palestinian lived in Israel and now the Jewish People live in Israel but the arabs that didn't run away still are in Israel and count as Israelis. What I truly think is that Israel belongs to both: Jewish and Palestinian. Will they live together? That's a different question. I personally believe that they should live in seperate countries that will support eachother's economy and so on *When you say Palestinians though, who are you exactly referring to? the 1,660,000+ Arabs living in Israel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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