Israel - Palestine Conflict Discussion Thread

[lego 44,165]

Your threads aren't going to stop anything, you realize that right? This is GagaDaily. Not some government.

Bringing awareness is at least someone can do.I see you in all these threads and on some statuses complaining to mods and trying to BAN threads about this issue? You are also committed. In another way.

[RAMROD 117,126]

Ooooohhhh, we're the bad guy.

We're always be the bad guy.

Microscopical level.

Woooooohhhh.

[Dolev 867]

The UN Human Rights Council is a place where countries like Syria and Iran are to condemn Israel while slaughtering their own citizens, killing dissidents and executing gays. Its a place where dictatorships from all over the world are able to blame democracies for violations of human rights. 90% of those yes-voting countries are experts with violating human rights. 

[Poker 3,770]

The UN Human Rights Council is a place where countries like Syria and Iran are to condemn Israel while slaughtering their own citizens, killing dissidents and executing gays. Its a place where dictatorships from all over the world are able to blame democracies for violations of human rights. 90% of those yes-voting countries are experts with violating human rights. 

I agree with this 100%

[elixt 34]

To be honest the world is for everyone these countries shouldn't be fighting or have weapons blah blah

we shouldn't have politics and powerful people in our world we shouldn't just live freely as humans and at peace 

 

We need an earth were we build homes, grow crops, help each other out, be kind and love each other live without money

give as much as we can and just care and fill our hearts with love that's more the world I think most would like to see

But people insist in arguing over small matters and killing and turning this world into hell itself

and causing suffering and pain to everyone around the world 

 

Why can't people turn over a new page and start a new

and give it their best shot at changing the world together 

 

:(

[Goosey 3,017]

The only state to vote against it

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

You're argument is invalid as I am Atheist. The Jewish people are historically attached with the land of Israel and its a fact, regardless of what is written in the bible.

 

So are the other major Abrahamic religions

 

You're a mess and just making a fool of yourself in here. 

[Applause 650]

Slay USA, being the only one voting No.

[Gomstre 2]

We all saw what happened with the Goldstone Report

[AnaLucia95 2]

Commentary of Yair Lapid, which was published on BBC

 

 

The main argument presented by Israel's critics can be summarised in a single sentence: Not enough of your children are dying.
I refuse to apologise for that, but I urge you to remember that while our children may not be dying, it is not for Hamas’s lack of trying.
Since the beginning of the last round of fighting, thousands of rockets have been launched at Israeli cities, armed terrorists have attempted to execute mass attacks in villages by the border and hundreds of mortars have been aimed at kindergartens and schools. The only reason these attempts at mass killing are not making an impression is that Hamas has failed. The Israeli Defence Forces’ land and air operation, along with Iron Dome, the anti-missile defence system developed by Israel, prevented us from gaining the world’s sympathy in return for images of mutilated Jewish children. Given a choice between sympathetic news coverage and the lives of our children, I choose life.
Hamas chooses otherwise.
Western eyes and ears consider it a dubious choice, but Hamas never hid its position on the matter: it has no problem with Palestinian children dying, so long as it serves its political objectives.

I know that sounds cynical, but that’s because it really is. Islamic terror is absolutely cynical, it always was and always will be, and its greatest speciality is taking advantage of every democracy’s main weakness – the fact that we sanctify life.
The average Western viewer sees both sides of the conflict on television. One side is dying and the other side insists on continuing with daily life. One can understand them for taking the side of the injured party, and let’s be absolutely clear – to us, the death of any child, Israeli or Palestinian, is a tragedy. On the other hand, that does not release us from answering the question of who is truly to blame for this tragedy?
The power of these images is the reason that Hamas intentionally builds its missile factories and bunkers underneath civilian homes, stores its ammunition in schools and kindergartens (including United Nations schools), launches its rockets surrounded by civilian families, despite knowing beyond any doubt that it will lead to innocent casualties. Hamas rests its conscience – if it even has one – by announcing that the dead children are “Shahids†who will make it to heaven.
I know it sounds crazy, impossible to understand, but I have no way of helping you with that. I have spent my entire life in the Middle East and I still cannot understand how people can sacrifice their children.
It contradicts everything we know of humanity or parenthood and yet it happens.
The absurd result is that Israel does much more to protect Palestinian children than Hamas and yet many Europeans and many Britons accuse us of being responsible for their deaths.

They ignore the fact that Israel is the only country in the history of wars that calls ahead before we fire. Tens of thousands of Palestinians have received phone calls, text messages and leaflets warning residents to vacate combat zones. Israeli air force sorties were cancelled after the planes were in the air due to reports of civilian presence – all in order to prevent innocent casualties.
But Hamas forbade civilians to leave their homes, put them on rocket factory rooftops, forced the children – its own children – to remain in areas that would clearly become harsh door-to-door combat zones.
For Hamas, it is a win-win situation: either the attack is cancelled and it can go on launching missiles at Israel or the attack succeeds and it can go on launching images of dead children at media outlets around the world.
We also have the option of doing nothing. Some British circles expect that of us. They ask us to accept rocket fire from the skies and terrorist tunnels dug beneath our communities.
We will not do that.

 

 

Maybe some of you understand the Israeli site a little more and act like Palestine is a saint. 

[Robinladen 1,539]

Nnn any else that read "gaga" instead of "gaza" in the thread title? I was like 'wtf is she saying'.

[Pandemiya 61]

Where are the lies?   Well written BBC.

[AnaLucia95 2]

Where are the lies?   Well written BBC.

Ikr

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@Charli XCX

 

You said the article on the Hospital that the IDF set up for injured Palestinians seems like a propaganda to you, than why now it is unacceptable to think it might be fake or it wasn't done by the IDF? But I also see you're denying Hamas' terrorism so...

I didn't say it is I said it could be, But at the end I did believe it! But it wasn't my point back there, my main point was that it was what they HAVE to do, it's nothing non-obligatory, as a hospital it is their job to help people no matter which side they are

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I guess it's just a difficult and confusing situation, at first I was so sure of the side I supported because I was looking solely at the death toll, but now I don't even know what to think. Gaza is definitely suffering more but that doesn't necessarily mean that Israel is to blame I guess.

 

Note; That's not a request for people on either side to try convert my beliefs.