Dolev 867 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 how did I ignore it and how is it that his relates to what I said? I was just saying that it's what EVERY country in a state of war should be doing doing not only Israel, learn how to read, seriously "dd the Pro-Israelis thinking they are so slick trying to shade us over something every airline should do when a country is in such a state it's an obvious thing to do keep trying tho" Pick your words. Such a state is not normal and shouldn't be. Therefore anything that happens as a result is not obvious and shouldn't be. How come I haven't heard one word from you about how Hamas is targeting civilians? about how Hamas is encouraging its own citizens to ignore IDF warnings and stay in combat zones? how come Hamas is storaging its weapons in civilian areas, in hospitals, schools and houses. You are ignoring the cause of the problem and refer to Israel as if it was the one provoking Hamas for the 15 last years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You're the one refusing to believe me/deny the facts about these 2 specific events that were held 3 days ago, you're the one acting as if I'm lying, so why should i bother anyways? I think if ill re read your posts ill lose a few IQ points here and there, so no thank you! And btw, the phrase "putting words inside my mouth" shouldn't be used by you when you're the one putting words of terror inside thousands of people who were protesting peace, just wanted to point that out. Your arguments are so weak that you are trying to insult me now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Your arguments are so weak that you are trying to insult me now? You've used that statement like 5 times already, to me and other members as well, who's argument is weak now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiltedbliss 915 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 One of the reasons Israel is so successful is that while the Arabs are busy blaming the world for their problems, Israel is busy soleving its own. Have a good day. I have a hard time believing you're being serious :rip: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You've used that statement like 5 times already, to me and other members as well, who's argument is weak now? I'll use it anytime that I feel to. Learn how to have a mature discussion without trying to insult people who thinks different than you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I have a hard time believing you're being serious explain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I'll use it anytime that I feel to. Learn how to have a mature discussion without trying to insult people who thinks different than you. Ha - Ha at this coming from you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 "dd the Pro-Israelis thinking they are so slick trying to shade us over something every airline should do when a country is in such a state it's an obvious thing to do keep trying tho" Pick your words. Such a state is not normal and shouldn't be. Therefore anything that happens as a result is not obvious and shouldn't be. How come I haven't heard one word from you about how Hamas is targeting civilians? about how Hamas is encouraging its own citizens to ignore IDF warnings and stay in combat zones? how come Hamas is storaging its weapons in civilian areas, in hospitals, schools and houses. You are ignoring the cause of the problem and refer to Israel as if it was the one provoking Hamas for the 15 last years. Sis I did not say that the 'state of war' is the obvious thing, it's the fact that Israel+Palestine are in a war and flights towards this territory should be cancelled for the duration of the conflict. Period. It's not even about which side I am on especially in this thread since it's NOT about which side is what dd And sis I don't believe Hamas is encouraging it's citizens to stay in the IDF areas these are lies spread by the Israeli propaganda besides IDF shouldn't be in Gaza at all YOU should learn to read and see that I'm not even talking about the conflict itself, I'm talking about the flights being cancelled which IS the obvious thing to do. Let's not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet 1,417 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 "dd the Pro-Israelis thinking they are so slick trying to shade us over something every airline should do when a country is in such a state it's an obvious thing to do keep trying tho" Pick your words. Such a state is not normal and shouldn't be. Therefore anything that happens as a result is not obvious and shouldn't be. How come I haven't heard one word from you about how Hamas is targeting civilians? about how Hamas is encouraging its own citizens to ignore IDF warnings and stay in combat zones? how come Hamas is storaging its weapons in civilian areas, in hospitals, schools and houses. You are ignoring the cause of the problem and refer to Israel as if it was the one provoking Hamas for the 15 last years. I don't think anyone here is mega pro-Hamas. Hamas are a pretty bad bunch, and yes they are 'using civilians as shields' and potentially storing weapons in hospitals, schools etc. However, people are pro-Palestine and pro-Palestinians, the innocent people that Hamas seized control of back in 2007. These are the people that are both victims of Hamas and Israel. You need to stop confusing pro-Palestinians with pro-Hamas And also - get real. Hamas are nowhere near as much a threat to Israel as Israel are to Hamas. Hamas have peanuts for cash and weapons that are relics. Israel is a rich nation that pumps billions into it's military (yet still somehow manages to kill loads of civilians). It's david vs goliath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ha - Ha at this coming from you Ha Ha Ha Hamas? :roll: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ha Ha Ha Hamas? :roll:Wow how mature we all should really learn from you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 fellows refers to those who share your views. In order for the death toll to be minimized Hamas has to stop storaging its weapons in civilian areas. You have to understand Hamas is expert in driving the media. We have no indication that the IDF is responsible for the hospital mess. If you are doubting my sources you should point me to where exactly the mistake has been done. I won't bother going back through my comments as I am checking myself on a regular base. Look...I get that you only have one rather extreme view on this situation. You need to understand that others, including myself, do not. I have conflicting feelings on this whole situation, and they aren't one-sided or extreme. I don't have "fellows" in this discussion. I'm not into the blame game. My wish is that someone will find a way to minimalize the civilian deaths and injuries and that places like hospitals will be off-limits, no matter what. Other countries and the UN are getting involved, so maybe they will find a way for Israel to protect its civilian population, while lessening the attack on innocent civilians in Palestine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sis I did not say that the 'state of war' is the obvious thing, it's the fact that Israel+Palestine are in a war and flights towards this territory should be cancelled for the duration of the conflict. Period. It's not even about which side I am on especially in this thread since it's NOT about which side is what dd And sis I don't believe Hamas is encouraging it's citizens to stay in the IDF areas these are lies spread by the Israeli propaganda besides IDF shouldn't be in Gaza at all YOU should learn to read and see that I'm not even talking about the conflict itself, I'm talking about the flights being cancelled which IS the obvious thing to do. Let's not It shouldn't be. Period. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6S0-o3uFI inb4 MEMRI are a part of Israeli propagnada!!1 :roll: I don't think anyone here is really pro-Hamas. Hamas are a pretty awful bunch, and yes they are using civilians as shields and storing weapons in hospitals, schools etc, and yes they are targeting Israeli civilians and army personnel. However, people are pro-Palestine and pro-Palestinians, the innocent people that Hamas seized control of back in 2007. These are the people that are both victims of Hamas and Israel. You need to stop confusing pro-Palestinians with pro-Hamas And also - get real. Hamas are nowhere near as much a threat to Israel as Israel are to Hamas. Hamas have peanuts for cash and weapons that are relics. Israel is a rich nation that pumps billions into it's military (yet still somehow manages to kill loads of civilians). It's david vs goliath. You get real. Those rockets could kill and they did so. It could have been much worse if not for the Iron Dome system. No country on earth would accept attacks into its territory. The IDF could destroy the Hamas infrastructure from air but still decided to do it by ground force in order to minimize loss of innocent lives while putting it soldiers at high risk of getting killed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Wow how mature we all should really learn from you thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Look...I get that you only have one rather extreme view on this situation. You need to understand that others, including myself, do not. I have conflicting feelings on this whole situation, and they aren't one-sided or extreme. I don't have "fellows" in this discussion. I'm not into the blame game. My wish is that someone will find a way to minimalize the civilian deaths and injuries and that places like hospitals will be off-limits, no matter what. Other countries and the UN are getting involved, so maybe they will find a way for Israel to protect its civilian population, while lessening the attack on innocent civilians in Palestine. Ok yeah I have an extreme point of view. :millie: let's see how the US was to respond if Mexico would fire rockets towards LA... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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