bionic 50,111 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 This isn't a game of "who is the most oppressed". Palestinians are being wiped out just for being Palestinian. Israel is all but carrying out a genocide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 It's you who needs to educate himself! Where did I deny that jews never lived there? That fact that there were lots of jews in that area 3000 years ago is NOT a proof of anything: you know lots of people there converted to christianism and then to Islam Again, you are trying to pass jewish living as minority mong other ethnicities, as big established jewish nation; and no it is not already proven that that kindgom really existed. Check out this for example. Islam began to spread over the Arabian Peninsula, not Jerusalem. Christianity became big only around the 4th century. People were not converting religions but rather killed or exiled by new diffrent people. I can't believe you are actually denying such historical events never took place. What's next? maybe also Rome never happend and the Ottomans are a lie! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict: Israeli targeting policy under scrutiny after shellfire hits a mother and child, a school full of refugees and a doctor’s home More civilians killed and injured as violence continues in Gaza A father cries over the body of his son who died when the UN school for refugees in Beit Hanoun was attacked The funeral of five brothers and cousins of the Daqqa family took place hurriedly during a humanitarian ceasefire. There was uncertainty about how long the brief respite would last; sporadic gunfire and air strikes could already be heard in the distance. The mourners left hurriedly as a warplane made two passes overhead. One of the supposed aims of Benjamin Netanyahu’s government is the return of Fatah to Gaza, weakening the grip of Hamas when the fighting ends. All five killed today were Fatah members; Akram Ibrahim Abu Daqqa had worked in the office of Mahmoud Abbas, the Fatah leader and President of the Palestinian government; his brother Adli had been employed by the Fatah-run interior ministry. “There is no Hamas in our family, there is no one from Hamas here,†said Abdul Raif, one of the surviving brothers, waving his arm at those who had come to the burial at Abassan. “We are not involved in fighting; some people in our family are interested in politics, does that mean they will become targets for the Israelis? Do the Israelis think they can work with Fatah in this area after this?†Ahmed Abu Daqqa, the 65-year-old father of two of those killed, wanted to talk about personal, rather than political, matters. He had left the home with most of the family to go to Khan Younis town centre. He heard what had happened from a son, 47-year-old Tawfiq. “Of course I am very upset, for my sons and my nephews and for their wives, their children. There are more than 30 members in the family. Who is going to look after them now?†He asked. “It was risky for them to stay on here, but why should they have been targets? We will never find out.†Five hundred metres away, on the road out of the district of Khozaa, a battered car delivered Foulla Sabaan to an ambulance. She was clutching her 10-month-old girl, Raghda, wrapped in a cream blanket soaked in blood as she wept: “The Israelis told us to leave our homes or we would get killed in the fighting. We started walking with a white flag when the tanks started firing. That is when my baby was hurt.†Ms Sabaan, 31, had been given a lift by a passing car. “My husband is walking with the other children. I am so worried about them – they are firing at everyone, no one is safe hereâ€. The targeting policy of the Israeli military was once again under scrutiny later in the day when a UN school in the town of Beit Hanoun, which was being used as a shelter by hundreds fleeing the fighting, was hit by tank shells killing 15 people, including children, and leaving 70 injured. Chris Gunness, spokesperson for the UN Relief and Works Agency, pointed out that “precise co-ordinates of the shelter had been formally given to the Israeli army. Over the course of the day, the agency tried to co-ordinate a window for civilians to leave with the Israeli army: it was never granted. Pools of blood lay on desks and floors of classrooms where the families had been living. Laila al-Shinbari described how families had gathered in the courtyard expecting to be evacuated. “Now my son is dead and many of my relatives are wounded. All of us were sitting in one place when suddenly four shells landed. There were bodies on the ground, blood and screams.†The Israeli military said it was carrying out a review of the incident. Rockets launched by Hamas had landed in the Beit Hanoun area, it claimed, and it was these rockets which may have been responsible for the school killings. But paramedics accused the Israeli forces of deliberately shooting at ambulances trying to bring the injured out of Khozaa and Abassan. “The tanks were firing and the shells were landing right next to us. There is no doubt that they were shooting at us; it was not crossfire,†insisted Wissan Nabhan. “We had been trying to get permission for a long time to get these people out, people were dying trapped in their houses because they could not get medical treatment. Then, when they allowed us, they started shooting.†Kamel Mohammed Qudaieh, who was treating the wounded in Khozaa, was severely injured and his home destroyed when hit by shellfire. His 20-year-old brother, Ahmed, had been killed the previous day, said a group who had come out of the town. “The doctor was doing all he could with those who managed to get to him and he was also visiting homes. He was the only place one could get treatment,†said Abdurrahman Qudaieh. “The Israelis knew that: a tank fired at the house; we are sure they did that deliberately. There is no one there now to help the wounded; we saw people bleeding on the doorways of their homes when we left. They were crying for us to get them help, but this ceasefire is almost over now, I don’t know how many will stay alive tomorrow.†More here http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-israeli-targeting-policy-under-scrutiny-after-shellfire-hits-a-mother-and-child-a-school-full-of-refugees-and-a-doctors-home-9627173.html FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Islam began to spread over the Arabian Peninsula, not Jerusalem. Christianity became big only around the 4th century. People were not converting religions but rather killed or exiled by new diffrent people. I can't believe you are actually denying such historical events never took place. What's next? maybe also Rome never happend and the Ottomans are a lie! You're kidding right? where did I deny such events? Of course at those times people feared to be killed or exiled, thus the majority of them converts. Also as you said it yourself, Ottomans used to control most middle east, until the british colonisation arrived....and you know the rest of the story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 You're kidding right? where did I deny such events? Of course at those times people feared to be killed or exiled, thus the majority of them converts. Also as you said it yourself, Ottomans used to control most middle east, until the british colonisation arrived....and you know the rest of the story That fact that there were lots of jews in that area 3000 years ago is NOT a proof of anything All you can find is the hypothetical "kingdom of Israel" which even according to your sources couldn't remain for 100 years! and from taht same wiki article: "Modern scholarship has challenged the biblical account using both literary and archaeological evidence, leading to questions over the historicity of some or all of the account.". Converts were not so common those days. I don't get your last sentence... :roll: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Israel was forced to give Gaza concrete so they could build and reconstruct schools. Gaza lied and used the concrete to reinforce their tunnels they dug into Israel to launch suicide missions ad terrorist attacks. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/world/middleeast/gaza-israel-hamas-tunnels.html?_r=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker 3,770 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 When will this stop :cry: Kindness rules all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 When will this stop :cry: I know right? They should have just used the concrete to rebuild their homes and schools as they said they would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I know right? They should have just used the concrete to rebuild their homes and schools as they said they would. Rebuild so they can be bombed again... Is that why Israeli army just attacked UN school full of refugees? @RazNazir ITN reporter confirms Israel knew UN shelter full of women & kids.Israel still bombed the shelter #IsraeliWarCrimes http://twitter.com/Taltool11/status/492405095946924032/photo/1http://twitter.com/Taltool11/status/492405095946924032/photo/1 How can anyone justify this? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Rebuild so they can be bombed again... Is that why Israeli army just attacked UN school full of refugees? How can anyone justify this? Who said it was able to be justified? Please stay on topic. The point is that Gaza misused the material to build terrorist tunnels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Who said it was able to be justified? Please stay on topic. The point is that Gaza misused the material to build terrorist tunnels. This is on topic. Every few months new conflict starts, everything rebuilt gets destroyed again. This war would not end if they used material somewhere else, this war will end when occupation ends. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughdancy 282 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This is on topic. Every few months new conflict starts, everything rebuilt gets destroyed again. This war would not end if they used material somewhere else, this war will end when occupation ends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This is on topic. Every few months new conflict starts, everything rebuilt gets destroyed again. This war would not end if they used material somewhere else, this war will end when occupation ends. Occupation of Israel will never end. Deal with it. No, you're off topic saying "is that why they attack ___ just now?" This thread is abot Gaza misusing the material for terrorist tunnels. Nothing is being rebuilt; invalid point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 The tunnels can be up to 90 feet underground and reinforced with concrete, a scarce commodity in Gaza, where most imports of construction material are banned by Israel except for internationally supervised projects. Here is why. Everything is said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 israel can sugar coat it all they want, they are killing innocents, they are the terrorists here, and your OP is generalizing the whole Gaza people as Hamas, so no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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