Mary Jane Holland recycled track leaked

[Gov Hooka 8,008]

Oh my god this thread has almost ruined the album for me :nooo: not because I don't like it but after all the talk I thought this would be her most ambitious album to date

I knew about Aura obviously but now I find out that MJH and Donatella are recycled too? What the actual ****, it's like a blow to my stan heart lol, I expect much better from Gaga. Leave DJWS, get Fernando back and keep Rubin. I know it's not Zedd and madeon's fault but it's very telling that theirs are recycled.

And Gaga should start producing her own stuff like Venus or focus more on piano stuff.

This must be the biggest disappointment I've ever felt for Gaga :(

bring Red One and Fernando for an amazing album

[aaronyoji 2,007]

gypsy is hardly recycled compared to what she did with Donatella and MJH

 

At least both Hair and TEOG charted high

i was being sarcastic lol. i just think redone tends to recycle himself so by happen stance the hooks he wrote on gypsy = the hooks he was writing years ago for hair, etc. 

[Batwings 12,851]

I seriously can't even muster up the energy to give a damn and freak out like some of you. So what if it's recycled? MJH is still one of my favorite tracks on the album, and that's not going to suddenly change.

[Born Brave 2,072]

Nobody's saying this takes credit from ARTPOP because other artists also do that. I'm saying this makes me feel disappointed because, to me, a song should be created (mostly) from scratch in order to have its own "soul". This makes it feel like a product that has been sold to me. A product to which her vocals were glued.

So get a record deal and cut some vocals and pick up a copy of FL Studio and do it your way... Gaga did what she wanted 

[LostBoyfriend 1,076]

I do think Troy pushed her back before she was fully healed and ready mentally, but there is NO WAY a label can demand an album every two years, unless it is written in the contract that way. Most record contracts allow for AT LEAST three years (usually more) between albums. Even with that, any label would extend a deadline, due to an artist having a major health issue. The label could get sued otherwise.

That's new information for me, thanks.

So yeah, who knows, everyone has their own point of view :/. At the end is music, rather is a demo of someone else or an original one

[Gov Hooka 8,008]

Guys, she's said numerous times that this is how she makes music. She either writes the song first and hears the melody on the piano (Dope, Gypsy, DWUW, etc.) or hears an instrumental from one of her producers and then writes melodies and lyrics to go over top (Donatella, Aura, Stache, MJH, etc). No one should be MAD about this. Listen to Donatella and Karma Bitch by Anjulie. Same instrumental, but completely different songs. Gaga still plays a hugely important role in the creation of the song, regardless of whether it's a recycled beat.

The fact that she CAN do this shows her talent. Where other pop stars have the songs made for them, Gaga can actually engage in a legit collaboration with her producer, hearing a groove and then creating her own song out of it. That's something that takes insane talent, and I think a lot of you don't realize that.

:applause: :applause: all these people freaking out probably have no idea how to write melodies on their own and the difficulties of remixing and re-envisioning music

[MonsterOfSpain 8,281]

With fans like this we don't need ATRL haters

[Miel 15,009]

don't forget that ARTPOP concept changed after the hip issue, and songs like brooklyn nights sire princess die were supposed to be in the Album...The original idea of the album was meant to be a sequel of the fame monster, talking about the dead legend like marylin michael jackson ecc ecc ecc...then something happened and all changed...i'm sure there's more that we don't know about troy...

 

I don't know if ARTPOP was meant to be TFM's sequel*, but I agree that before the injury, its content was more than likely wholly different than what we got now.

 

*I'm curious, why do people think ARTPOP was meant to be TFM's sequel? Was it that "little sister" tweet (which was different in context, anyway)?

[Sara 1,128]

Guys, she's said numerous times that this is how she makes music. She either writes the song first and hears the melody on the piano (Dope, Gypsy, DWUW, etc.) or hears an instrumental from one of her producers and then writes melodies and lyrics to go over top (Donatella, Aura, Stache, MJH, etc). No one should be MAD about this. Listen to Donatella and Karma Bitch by Anjulie. Same instrumental, but completely different songs. Gaga still plays a hugely important role in the creation of the song, regardless of whether it's a recycled beat.

The fact that she CAN do this shows her talent. Where other pop stars have the songs made for them, Gaga can actually engage in a legit collaboration with her producer, hearing a groove and then creating her own song out of it. That's something that takes insane talent, and I think a lot of you don't realize that.

I had to delete my own post because you said it so much better. :applause:

[Shaney 5,515]

I remember that Gaga said she had chosen  Zedd and Madeon, after hearing them, from the work that they had sent her, so the situation is actually different. Recycling should not be seen as "rag color" to the situation, but as an adaptation of something that had already been produced. This is not "i'm lazy" but " you guys have a potential with those demos don't waste them , we will give new life"

Good way to think about this.

I seriously can't even muster up the energy to give a damn and freak out like some of you. So what if it's recycled? MJH is still one of my favorite tracks on the album, and that's not going to suddenly change.

Slay, mte

[Monster2015 1,113]

so because its been happening for a long time, so because madonna does it, so because its tradition we should just roll over and accept it? im sorry but gaga has always claimed to be an innovator. specifically with ARTPOP and trying to "burn the music industry alive" and "reverse warholian" and all of those empty words.

Not just because Madonna does it that's just one example of the many times it has happened. I know Lady Gaga wanted to break down "music industry expectations" with this album but fans are getting pissed with lady gaga when it's not her fault that it just so happens that the producers sampled other songs for ARTPOP. I personally don't mind it because lyrics and instrumentals influence me no matter where it came from.

[Larkin 100]

Nobody's saying this takes credit from ARTPOP because other artists also do that. I'm saying this makes me feel disappointed because, to me, a song should be created (mostly) from scratch in order to have its own "soul". This makes it feel like a product that has been sold to me. A product to which her vocals were glued.

 

laughing at all the pressed people on here, if only you guys knew how common this is. Don't even get me started on how Michael Jackson has done the same thing for Thriller, Rock With You, Off the Wall, I just can't stop loving you, Man in the mirror. probably not a direct recycled and with obvious reworking, but this isn't that uncommon especially for pop artists. Give Gaga credit for writing melodies based off of instrumentals that work great and sometimes better than the intended demo and song like Donatella and Aura. It's not like Gaga is a complete hack at making songs. but it does show that this album doesn't stack up to her other albums like BTW and TFM

I strongly agree with the bold parts. But anywho ARTPOP is what it is and its an enjoyable album. but the whole project seemed like a slightly overdone collage. 

Edited June 26, 2014 by Larkin

[Bloody hooker 6,445]

So basically the Tinnitius and Onion Girl instrumentals could be on Youtube rn?

[Miel 15,009]

Guys, she's said numerous times that this is how she makes music. She either writes the song first and hears the melody on the piano (Dope, Gypsy, DWUW, etc.) or hears an instrumental from one of her producers and then writes melodies and lyrics to go over top (Donatella, Aura, Stache, MJH, etc). No one should be MAD about this. Listen to Donatella and Karma Bitch by Anjulie. Same instrumental, but completely different songs. Gaga still plays a hugely important role in the creation of the song, regardless of whether it's a recycled beat.

The fact that she CAN do this shows her talent. Where other pop stars have the songs made for them, Gaga can actually engage in a legit collaboration with her producer, hearing a groove and then creating her own song out of it. That's something that takes insane talent, and I think a lot of you don't realize that.

 

The more I listen to the MJH demos I realize that Gaga's vocals give live to the final version.

And Zedd definitely makes amazing music, too bad he re-uses old stuff he did but admit, this is amazing.

 

I personally am not a fan of the method, but I agree that she brought life to it.

[SKANK 14,288]

This "leak" only tells us what we already knew: That Gaga had producers help with the instrumental parts of her those songs that were more electronic and required more production foundation.

 

 

 

This doesn't show Gaga had producers help with the instrumentals, it proves Gaga wasn't involved in creating the instrumentals at all.  Which you have to admit is a little disappointing…if only because we know she is capable of more.

Edited June 26, 2014 by SKANK