Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Statistically yes, he is LITERALLY more likely to rape a woman than any woman is likely to rape a man JUST because of the fact that he is a man. Literally YES. This is so frustrating, especially considering how his song has everything to do with him raping women and how Gaga's song has nothing to do with rape at all (and if it did, she would be the person "being raped"...) A woman being raped is worse than a man getting raped. Logistically. I'm not a crazy feminist. I do believe, however, in the social, political, and economic equality of the s-xes. So yes, I'm a feminist as every non-bigot is. But in order to bring about equality we first have to consciously realize there is inequality. I understand that statistically he's more likely but I'm talking about if both people wrote a hit song saying they wanna rape someone of the opposite s-x. They would both be equally likely because both expressed equal interest. A I'm not defending Robin Thicke BTW And wait its worse if a women gets raped then a man? Explain the logic behind that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakrai 4,759 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Oh my, this turned out to be a much more interesting, albeit off-topic, discussion. Statistically yes, he is LITERALLY more likely to rape a woman than any woman is likely to rape a man JUST because of the fact that he is a man. Literally YES. This is so frustrating, especially considering how his song has everything to do with him raping women and how Gaga's song has nothing to do with rape at all (and if it did, she would be the person "being raped"...) A woman being raped is worse than a man getting raped. Logistically. I'm not a crazy feminist. I do believe, however, in the social, political, and economic equality of the s-xes. So yes, I'm a feminist as every non-bigot is. But in order to bring about equality we first have to consciously realize there is inequality. I don't get it. I mean, yes, statistically there's a higher chance a woman will get raped, but there's absolutely nothing that suggests that from that assumption alone you could jump to a conclusion as wild as "A woman being raped is worse than a man getting raped". Which one is "worse" is such a futile and absurd way of looking at the problem. Specially since most credible studies suggest that both kinds of rape stem from the same source: Entitlement. It is evident that since men are physically stronger than women, dominance comes easier, so it's easier for them to act out. It still doesn't make it worse. But this "Your problems are less important than mine" attitude really is a step backwards. I hope you can see that. It gets us nowhere, and destroys the bridges we try to create between genders. Which is the feminist extremists strategy. In order to bring about equality, we first need EMPATHY. Empathy builds bridges, makes us connect with one another in a far deeper level than just gender. Making absurd distinctions like "men rape"/"female rape" will only make the issue harder to tackle. sorry for being so off-topic. Oh, I'm just visiting- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Oh my, this turned out to be a much more interesting, albeit off-topic, discussion. I don't get it. I mean, yes, statistically there's a higher chance a woman will get raped, but there's absolutely nothing that suggests that from that assumption alone you could jump to a conclusion as wild as "A woman being raped is worse than a man getting raped". Which one is "worse" is such a futile and absurd way of looking at the problem. Specially since most credible studies suggest that both kinds of rape stem from the same source: Entitlement. It is evident that since men are physically stronger than women, dominance comes easier, so it's easier for them to act out. It still doesn't make it worse. But this "Your problems are less important than mine" attitude really is a step backwards. I hope you can see that. It gets us nowhere, and destroys the bridges we try to create between genders. Which is the feminist extremists strategy. In order to bring about equality, we first need EMPATHY. Empathy builds bridges, makes us connect with one another in a far deeper level than just gender. Making absurd distinctions like "men rape"/"female rape" will only make the issue harder to tackle. sorry for being so off-topic. I agree with you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Oh my, this turned out to be a much more interesting, albeit off-topic, discussion. I don't get it. I mean, yes, statistically there's a higher chance a woman will get raped, but there's absolutely nothing that suggests that from that assumption alone you could jump to a conclusion as wild as "A woman being raped is worse than a man getting raped". Which one is "worse" is such a futile and absurd way of looking at the problem. Specially since most credible studies suggest that both kinds of rape stem from the same source: Entitlement. It is evident that since men are physically stronger than women, dominance comes easier, so it's easier for them to act out. It still doesn't make it worse. But this "Your problems are less important than mine" attitude really is a step backwards. I hope you can see that. It gets us nowhere, and destroys the bridges we try to create between genders. Which is the feminist extremists strategy. In order to bring about equality, we first need EMPATHY. Empathy builds bridges, makes us connect with one another in a far deeper level than just gender. Making absurd distinctions like "men rape"/"female rape" will only make the issue harder to tackle. sorry for being so off-topic. no. For equality to be reached there much be acceptance that there is inequality. There must be acceptance that one group has privilege over another group, and it is feminism that says "f*** that." It doesn't require that you "feel" anything per say. All it requires is for people to say "Oh, your struggle is one that is real and arduous and I would like to do my part in erasing my privilege." No one needs to feel bad for anyone, because at the end of the day sitting around feeling sorry for one another isn't going to do sh**. I understand that statistically he's more likely but I'm talking about if both people wrote a hit song saying they wanna rape someone of the opposite s-x. They would both be equally likely because both expressed equal interest. A I'm not defending Robin Thicke BTW And wait its worse if a women gets raped then a man? Explain the logic behind that. Stop being willfully ignorant. WHAT happens when a female is raped by a man. WHAT happens when a man is raped by a woman. The two are not the same, so matter where the stem from. Yes, they are both rape and that's a terrible thing, but one is different from the other. One is infinitely more gruesome, traumatic, and painful. I think you both know which one I'm talking about. So yes, I can confidently say that a woman being raped by a man is significantly worse and more horrific than a man being raped by a woman. That is not to take away any dignity to any male that is s-xually abused, but it's just a fact of life. Life is unfair sometimes like that. Sometimes it sucks. And for the love of everything that is holy. Lady Gaga is NOT singing about raping the opposite s-x (or rape in general) and Robin Thick IS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 no. For equality to be reached there much be acceptance that there is inequality. There must be acceptance that one group has privilege over another group, and it is feminism that says "f*** that." It doesn't require that you "feel" anything per say. All it requires is for people to say "Oh, your struggle is one that is real and arduous and I would like to do my part in erasing my privilege." No one needs to feel bad for anyone, because at the end of the day sitting around feeling sorry for one another isn't going to do sh**. Stop being willfully ignorant. WHAT happens when a female is raped by a man. WHAT happens when a man is raped by a woman. The two are not the same, so matter where the stem from. Yes, they are both rape and that's a terrible thing, but one is different from the other. One is infinitely more gruesome, traumatic, and painful. I think you both know which one I'm talking about. So yes, I can confidently say that a woman being raped by a man is significantly worse and more horrific than a man being raped by a woman. That is not to take away any dignity to any male that is s-xually abused, but it's just a fact of life. Life is unfair sometimes like that. Sometimes it sucks. And for the love of everything that is holy. Lady Gaga is NOT singing about raping the opposite s-x (or rape in general) and Robin Thick IS. One of the stereotypes that the article calls untrue is "boys are less traumatized than girls" So males are just as traumatized as female. It's not just the pain of the rate itself or how gruesome that makes the act as awful as it is but the after effect the trama. If we go by pain and gruesome then we could say "date rape" where the victim is unconscious and not left hurt isn't that bad because the victim wasn't hurt. Obviously that's not the case. What makes it so awful is the after effect (BTW I'm not saying that without the trama it wouldn't be bad but im saying the trama is the thing that makes it worse then most crimes), the fact that you were used as an object only, you were violated, someone controlled you and you could do nothing to stop it. That's why rape is one of the worst crimes on the planet and it leaves phycological damage for years and that damage is equal between men and women. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homogenik 5 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 yeah... all those men-raping women have got to stop. I'm afraid for my life when I get out and it's dark these days... yeesh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applaud 0 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Stupid TMZ! Just tell us the truth already! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylangaga 216 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 whats been happening sisters?!?!?! BESIDES THE STUPID DEBATE OF RAPE..gaga isnt condoning ANYTHING so stawp..so are they scared to release it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz 2,572 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 A woman being raped is worse than a man getting raped. I cannot believe this was just said, and that people actually think this way. :roll: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankenztein 1,172 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Stop being willfully ignorant. WHAT happens when a female is raped by a man. WHAT happens when a man is raped by a woman. The two are not the same, so matter where the stem from. Yes, they are both rape and that's a terrible thing, but one is different from the other. One is infinitely more gruesome, traumatic, and painful. I think you both know which one I'm talking about. So yes, I can confidently say that a woman being raped by a man is significantly worse and more horrific than a man being raped by a woman. That is not to take away any dignity to any male that is s-xually abused, but it's just a fact of life. Life is unfair sometimes like that. Sometimes it sucks. Funny "Stop being willfully ignorant" is exactly what YOU need to do. There is no factual basis for your assertion that rape is worse for women than it is for men. That's bias on your part. I agree with Resquid in that you sound brainwashed by radical feminism. You can 'claim' you want equality between the s-xes all you like, but your actual logic is unbalanced in the favor of women. To say that women suffer more from rape is s-xist against men. Men and women are human, and they both feel trauma and pain exactly the same. Your stance that women suffer more, because of the fact they are women victimizes females in an unhealthy way. So your views are s-xist against women as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowgynous 0 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 FCK them, I dragged my ill ass to 3:30 AM with dream upon dream about missing this video and it being pulled before I'd wake up and watch it. Finally couldn't take the dreams any more and woke up to watch... STILL NO VIDEO but now unable to sleep again as I never can after I'm fully woken up... But I'm sick and need my bloody sleep. FCK THEM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I cannot believe this was just said, and that people actually think this way. :roll: This. That statement is just incredibly stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz 2,572 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 FCK them, I dragged my ill ass to 3:30 AM with dream upon dream about missing this video and it being pulled before I'd wake up and watch it. Finally couldn't take the dreams any more and woke up to watch... STILL NO VIDEO but now unable to sleep again as I never can after I'm fully woken up... But I'm sick and need my bloody sleep. FCK THEM. Did you watch the video in the OP? The TMZ guy clearly said the snippet would air on the show. The OP of this thread was very misleading :toofunny: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,723 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 One of the stereotypes that the article calls untrue is "boys are less traumatized than girls" So males are just as traumatized as female. It's not just the pain of the rate itself or how gruesome that makes the act as awful as it is but the after effect the trama. If we go by pain and gruesome then we could say "date rape" where the victim is unconscious and not left hurt isn't that bad because the victim wasn't hurt. Obviously that's not the case. What makes it so awful is the after effect (BTW I'm not saying that without the trama it wouldn't be bad but im saying the trama is the thing that makes it worse then most crimes), the fact that you were used as an object only, you were violated, someone controlled you and you could do nothing to stop it. That's why rape is one of the worst crimes on the planet and it leaves phycological damage for years and that damage is equal between men and women. Oh my word... Okay firstly, your article is not the freakin bible. I don't give a fug what it says in your stupid article. You will not sit behind your keyboard and say that it is equally traumatizing for a man to overpower a woman and shove his member up another person's genitals. And yes "date rape" is a less heinous crime than conscious rape. I MUUUUCH rather have my body taken advantage of while i'm unconscious than conscious. THAT is obvious. And who says rape is the worst crime there is? I MUUUUCH rather be s-xually violated than murdered. I cannot believe this was just said, and that people actually think this way. :roll: Funny "Stop being willfully ignorant" is exactly what YOU need to do. There is no factual basis for your assertion that rape is worse for women than it is for men. That's bias on your part. I agree with Resquid in that you sound brainwashed by radical feminism. You can 'claim' you want equality between the s-xes all you like, but your actual logic is unbalanced in the favor of women. To say that women suffer more from rape is s-xist against men. Men and women are human, and they both feel trauma and pain exactly the same (NOPE). Your stance that women suffer more, because of the fact they are women victimizes females in an unhealthy way. So your views are s-xist against women as well. Both of you, right now, tell me if you would rather be a man being raped by a woman or a woman being raped by a man. Those are the only two options. Absolutely no alternative answers. Go. This. That statement is just incredibly stupid. ^? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flawless 2,215 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I cannot believe this was just said, and that people actually think this way. :roll: Very sad tbh the scars on my mind are on replay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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