Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 I AM handing out warning points for this.If you accuse someone of faking something as awful as a broken hip, you better have seriously hard evidence, otherwise it's the worst kind of slander. This not a matter of opinion, like some fashion choice. This is someone's life.Cancelling the tour hurt her entire crew, band, dancers, and fans. She would not have cancelled the tour unless there was some life-and-death problem. If you think Lady Gaga is capable of doing THAT just because ticket sales were not always sold out or because she just wanted time to work on the next album, then you are the worst kind of hater, and you will not be allowed to be here. Not saying that I think she did what she's been accused of but there is some evidence that she did fake the injury. For example, her tour was performing poorly, I think it was only half sold out at the time. Now in 2013 the head of Live Nation said that if a tour is losing money then it will be cancelled. Now if Gaga weren't doing well then... It's possible. Also does she have a scar from her surgery? Also does she have a scar? I've read a couple of places that after her type of procedure you'd have a scar. Where is Gaga's? Now again I'm not saying she didn't hurt herself and that she faked the cancelation but if someone wanted to make the argument, there is some evidence to support it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle 4 Ur Life 6,716 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 this thread is just another way of asking: Should Gaga have broken her hip? it's really unnecessary “Fantastic, chic, freak, slay.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LStephens11 15 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 The album was released when it was ready, case closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
somechick 1 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I AM handing out warning points for this. If you accuse someone of faking something as awful as a broken hip, you better have seriously hard evidence, otherwise it's the worst kind of slander. This not a matter of opinion, like some fashion choice. This is someone's life. Cancelling the tour hurt her entire crew, band, dancers, and fans. She would not have cancelled the tour unless there was some life-and-death problem. If you think Lady Gaga is capable of doing THAT just because ticket sales were not always sold out or because she just wanted time to work on the next album, then you are the worst kind of hater, and you will not be allowed to be here. Amen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 People who believe Gaga tells us everything and always tells us the truth are delusional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,128 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 People who believe Gaga tells us everything and always tells us the truth are delusional. People who believe that she could and would fake a broken hip, with all the consequences and cover-up, are cynical to the point of their own brand of delusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 People who believe Gaga tells us everything and always tells us the truth are delusional. Why would you except her lying to you? You're a consumer and if you're lied too then you should be annoyed. Lady Gaga is a brand and if she outright lies to you then it's wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,128 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Not saying that I think she did what she's been accused of but there is some evidence that she did fake the injury. For example, her tour was performing poorly, I think it was only half sold out at the time. Now in 2013 the head of Live Nation said that if a tour is losing money then it will be cancelled. Now if Gaga weren't doing well then... It's possible. Also does she have a scar from her surgery? Also does she have a scar? I've read a couple of places that after her type of procedure you'd have a scar. Where is Gaga's?Now again I'm not saying she didn't hurt herself and that she faked the cancelation but if someone wanted to make the argument, there is some evidence to support it.You said it yourself, if the tour was losing money, the sponsor would cancel it. No need to fake an injury.As for the scar: Unless a real surgeon can tell me that, with the best technology available, there would still be a huge scar in a highly visible spot, I don't think we can assume anything about the scar.We shouldn't even be debating this unless someone has an actual piece of evidence of anything. To do otherwise is to just assume something awful for no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 You said it yourself, if the tour was losing money, the sponsor would cancel it. No need to fake an injury.As for the scar: Unless a real surgeon can tell me that, with the best technology available, there would still be a huge scar in a highly visible spot, I don't think we can assume anything about the scar.We shouldn't even be debating this unless someone has an actual piece of evidence of anything. To do otherwise is to just assume something awful for no reason. But to help PR instead of saying ticket sales are bad so they cancelled, they'd probably rather fake an injury. I don't know enough about surgery to talk in detail about the scar tho there is circumstantial evidence, a tour gets cancelled when tickets are doing poorly. Of course, this in no way proves Gaga lied but it makes it more likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Not saying that I think she did what she's been accused of but there is some evidence that she did fake the injury. For example, her tour was performing poorly, I think it was only half sold out at the time. Now in 2013 the head of Live Nation said that if a tour is losing money then it will be cancelled. Now if Gaga weren't doing well then... It's possible. Also does she have a scar from her surgery? Also does she have a scar? I've read a couple of places that after her type of procedure you'd have a scar. Where is Gaga's? Now again I'm not saying she didn't hurt herself and that she faked the cancelation but if someone wanted to make the argument, there is some evidence to support it. There is zero evidence to support it. You can't cancel a massive tour and have insurance cover many of the losses without major proof there is indeed in her case a medical emergency that required surgery and recuperation. She would never ever ever do that to all of her dancers and behind the scenes workers, musicians ... the list goes on. You try going into litigation with insurance companies and venues with a false claim. It can't happen. She would have been sued, depositions taken, medical records subpoened. They didn't need to because they had enough information submitted to know the tour had to be cancelled for medical reasons. I work in the legal field. There is no way to cancel something of this magnitude for false reasons and fake medical claims. There would have been lawsuits all over the place and she would have been accused of fraud by the insurance company. I see them go after car insurance policy holders for filing a claim and trying to prove it was false and taking them to court and depositions. That's nothing compared to a huge tour being cancelled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlop 4,773 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Shoulda been early 2014 and BTW should've gone til Jan 2013 tbh. BYE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 There is zero evidence to support it. You can't cancel a massive tour and have insurance cover many of the losses without major proof there is indeed in her case a medical emergency that required surgery and recuperation. She would never ever ever do that to all of her dancers and behind the scenes workers, musicians ... the list goes on. You try going into litigation with insurance companies and venues with a false claim. It can't happen. She would have been sued, depositions taken, medical records subpoened. They didn't need to because they had enough information submitted to know the tour had to be cancelled for medical reasons. I work in the legal field. There is no way to cancel something of this magnitude for false reasons and fake medical claims. There would have been lawsuits all over the place and she would have been charged with fraud. But wait, how do we know insurance was involved? Shoulda been early 2014 and BTW should've gone til Jan 2013 tbh. More like early 2012, she should've done the 2012 Grammys and performed the sixth single! Heavy Metal Lover! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara 1,128 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 a tour gets cancelled when tickets are doing poorly. Of course, this in no way proves Gaga lied but it makes it more likely.Where is the proof the ticket sales were doing poorly? There were a few shows short of sell-outs, but that's far from doing poorly.But more importantly, when in history has an artist ever faked an injury to get out of poor tour sales?If the music industry had lots of artists who regularly faked injuries when ticket sales were less than 100%, then sure, you might have a point. :)But since that never actually happens, you are claiming that Gaga is doing (or capable of doing) something lower than any major artist in history.Sure, there are a few cases where a tour was cancelled because the artist got sick or had to go to rehab or died or whatever, but never faked outright (that I know of?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memo 176 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yes but then you all flops would complain about her doing 0 promo or just doing acoustic performances despite her having a broken hip and/or being in a wheelchair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 But wait, how do we know insurance was involved? http://www.grammy.com/news/the-business-of-concert-cancellations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.