Protesters in Murrieta turn buses carrying detained immigrants away

[Cody Draco 2,531]

It's a really sad situation. I feel terrible that they would want to flee the country where they were born. I wish I could give them all a hug.

 

Their problems aren't our problems. Their countries should be getting their **** together and taking care of their people. I think it's impossible to not have poverty and problems in the world. That is impossible due to the overpopulation of Earth. We just have to keep trying though and try to make the world the best place it can be.

[aaronyoji 2,064]

by someone's logic in this thread, should we all be responsible for building our own personal free ways to work? socialist programs that benefit us stretch all the way from highways, traffic signs, to food programs and public education. if you dont want any of that, then "take personal responsibility" and build your own freeways if you dont think the government should have social programs. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

by someone's logic in this thread, should we all be responsible for building our own personal free ways to work? socialist programs that benefit us stretch all the way from highways, traffic signs, to food programs and public education. if you dont want any of that, then "take personal responsibility" and build your own freeways if you dont think the government should have social programs. 

do you see how road construction and food stamps are two entirely different concepts?

 

SPILL THAT TEA Y'ALL, especially MJHolland

again...careful! Comments like that are going to get you labeled as a xenophobic racist psychopath with no ability to feel empathy by member who've never met you!

[Tommymonster44 0]

Or between steps 3 and 4, Manuel could have looked for a better job in his own country... or tell his kids to study their a**es off so they don't end up like him... or he could have taken advantage of the public education he had, leading to a better career path... or he could have done what any responsible adult does and make sure he is economically secure enough to have children in the first place.

"Manuel" represents adults, and all adults are responsible for themselves first, then their families. And if they can't be responsible for themselves first but they make families anyways, then those kids will carry that extra burden too. This applies everywhere, even in the US.

It is a tragic situation and unfortunately a cycle, but it doesn't warrant anarchy.

I see that prejudice and disconnect are alive and well.

First off, I'm sure that every parent only wants what is best for their children. And like in every class and every culture, there are going to be lazy people and there are going to be hardworking people. You think that every millionaire worked harder for their money than half of the world's working class? The amount of work you do DOES NOT translate into the amount of money you'll earn.

Additionally, you seem to not realize that your schools are not the same type of schools that the poor go to. The educational quality is not the same. Unfortunately, the quality of education you receive is very much tied into your economic class. People living in the slums could work all day at their academics and get no where in life. Having known many immigrants, both legal and illegal, you do realize that many of them moved to America so that their children COULD get a better education than they did, don't you?

Finally, I have a serious problem that you believe having a family should only be reserved for those with a lot of money. People of all classes should be able to have children. It is one of our natural human rights, in my opinion. Restricting this right because the parents are poor isn't okay.

[Echo 327]

That's so sad.

[LStephens11 15]

again...careful! Comments like that are going to get you labeled as a xenophobic racist psychopath with no ability to feel empathy by member who've never met you!

 

I understand

[Lion Heart 15,041]

June 11, 2014

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: 212-549-2666, [email protected]

 

CHICAGO, LOS ANGELES, PHOENIX and MIAMI  Widespread abuse of unaccompanied immigrant children at the hands of U.S. border officials spurred a group of civil and human rights organizations to file a complaint today on behalf of more than 100 children, each of whom reported experiencing abuse and mistreatment while in the custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the border enforcement agency within the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

 

"Border Patrol agents are committing appalling abuses of children all along the border," said Ashley Huebner, managing attorney of the Immigrant Children’s Protection Project at the National Immigrant Justice Center. "Even worse, Border Patrol has been committing these abuses for years, and our organizations have notified the agency numerous times, yet nothing has changed. The recent increase in arrivals of young people at the border makes it especially urgent that CBP ensure all children in their custody are treated safely and humanely."

 

"Border agents operate in a zone of impunity," said James Lyall of the ACLU Border Litigation Project. "Given CBP’s recent promise to be more accountable and transparent, we call on the agency to finally address these systemic abuses in a serious and meaningful way."

 

Today’s administrative complaint with DHSâ€â€the department’s only mechanism for seeking redressâ€â€was filed by the National Immigrant Justice Center (NIJC), the ACLU Border Litigation Project, Americans for Immigrant Justice (AI Justice), Esperanza Immigrant Rights Project (Esperanza), and the Florence Immigrant and Refugee Rights Project (Florence Project).

Children detained by CBP across the country have reported scores of examples of verbal, s-xual and physical abuse; prolonged detention in squalid conditions; and a severe lack of essential necessities such as beds, food and water.

 

The complaint describes Border Patrol agents denying necessary medical care to children as young as five-months-old, refusing to provide diapers for infants, confiscating and not returning legal documents and personal belongings, making racially-charged insults and death threats, and strip searching and shackling children in three-point restraints during transport. Reports of such abuse have been documented and reported for years, but no reforms have been implemented, nor have any actions been taken to hold agents accountable.

 

Children referenced in the complaint, many of whom fled violence and persecution in their home countries, include:

 

- H.R., a seven-year-old boy, was severely developmentally disabled and suffering from acute malnourishment when he was apprehended, but CBP held him in custody for approximately five days without any medical treatment. He was eventually hospitalized and underwent emergency surgery.

- D.G., a 16-year-old girl, was detained with adults. When CBP officials searched D.G., they violently spread her legs and touched her genital area forcefully, making her scream.

- M.R., a 15-year-old girl, traveled from Guatemala with her two-year-old son. Both M.R. and her son became sick while in CBP custody, but M.R.’s requests for medical attention were ignored or dismissed for approximately five days, until she and her son were finally taken to a hospital.

- K.A., a 14-year-old girl, had her asthma medication confiscated by CBP officials and proceeded to suffer multiple asthma attacks in the filthy and overcrowded CBP holding cells. After the first asthma attack, officials threatened that they would punish her if she were faking.

- C.S., a 17-year-old girl, was detained in a hielera (freezer) in wet clothes. Her clothes did not dry for three and a half days due to the frigid temperature in the holding cell. The only drinking water available to C.S. came from the toilet tank, and the bathroom was situated in plain view of all other detainees with a security camera mounted in front of it.

 

"We have instances where CBP shackled 13- and 14-year-olds, infants became sick while held in cells maintained at freezing temperatures, and many children were held in CBP custody beyond the legal 72-hour period, without food or blankets," said Erika Pinheiro, directing attorney for community education programs at Esperanza Immigrant Rights Project.

 

"Children are fleeing untenable conditions in their home countries, including pervasive violence and persecution, and are often re-victimized in transit to the United States," said Joseph Anderson, director of litigation for Americans for Immigrant Justice. "We need to ensure that these children are treated with dignity and respect and afforded all applicable legal protections while they are in U.S. custody."

 

The complaint’s recommendations include:

 

Enhanced CBP oversight, including creation of an independent oversight body;

Binding and enforceable short-term detention standards;

Creation of a uniform complaint process at DHS that includes confidential, expedited processes by which children can safely report abuse and receive timely recourse;

Adequate training for all officers who may encounter unaccompanied immigrant children;

Timely investigation into the complaints of abuse;

Accountability for any agent who violates the law and/or agency guidelines; and

Publication of the results of any investigations.

The complaint was filed with the DHS Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties as well as the DHS Office of Inspector General. The complaint emphasizes that abuses of unaccompanied children by immigration officials have been documented and reported to DHS for years but the government has not implemented reforms or taken any action to hold agents accountable.

https://www.aclu.org/immigrants-rights/unaccompanied-immigrant-children-report-serious-abuse-us-officials-during

 

 

Read the full complaint here: http://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/documents/DHS%20Complaint%20re%20CBP%20Abuse%20of%20UICs.pdf 

(PDF)

[Morphine Prince 109,655]

This will be another mess of a thread. 

[vespertine 3]

:popcorn:

[VISION 52]

Arturo: "Any threead about God, abortion, immigration, and Katy Perry causes all hell to break loose. Sheesh."

[Cas Winchester 195]

That's horrible. :sick:

[JaggedMonster 2]

 the mess will come :popcorn:

[RAMROD 117,032]

Ah.... Illegal immigration case.

What can we stress over without it.

[LipglossLuxury 5]

Absolutely disgusting and I read the article as it is the same link that I posted in the other thread. When will the corruption and blatant abuse end? These people think they can get away by torturing other humans only because they're not American citizens and are not in a place of power. The whole Border Patrol needs to be cracked down upon. Investigations need to be launched and people need to be fired. Truly disheartening.

[Arturo 40,746]

Keep this one cute guys. The other one was closed due to endless argument.