bugsnme 3 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I find it weird most of you actually agree that the mom is okay using a belt to punish her daughter for sending nudes. Violence is just wrong. It is the same as war. I was caned while was young but it did not stop me from continue the things I did until my dad sit down and talked to me which make me stopped because I realized my mom was worried about my safety. Talking works better than physical punishment at least to me. I also get that the children now are getting harder to discipline and different culture have different ways of teaching so i guess physical punishment is fine as a form of discipline (a slap of the face, a few hits on the butt or hand is normal) but hitting her for more than 5 mins and filming it and posting online is NOT discipline. what the F is this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence 244 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) I don't understand why everyone is defending the mom. Discipline and "keeping a kid in check" start at an early age. When you have to discipline them like this you are way too late and you done something wrong as a parent. And regardless, I just find it inhumane to beat your child to the ground and then post it online for everyone to see. I love your input and I feel like I can respect it more than the other replies because you are a parent :) I find it weird most of you actually agree that the mom is okay using a belt to punish her daughter for sending nudes. Violence is just wrong. It is the same as war. I was caned while was young but it did not stop me from continue the things I did until my dad sit down and talked to me which make me stopped because I realized my mom was worried about my safety. Talking works better than physical punishment at least to me. I also get that the children now are getting harder to discipline and different culture have different ways of teaching so i guess physical punishment is fine as a form of discipline (a slap of the face, a few hits on the butt or hand is normal) but hitting her for more than 5 mins and filming it and posting online is NOT discipline. what the F is this? I completely agree. I'm really shocked that so many people are defending the mom, and the only examples they have to back it up are themselves Edited April 25, 2014 by Essence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) "Strong associations" This comes from the organization that states correlation does not equal causation Feel free to provide me with what you are using as a source to make the claim that corporal punishment is effective. Edited April 25, 2014 by SKANK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psylobin 0 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Feel free to provide me with what you are using as a source to make the claim the corporal punishment is effective. "Corporal punishment leads to more immediate compliant behavior in children" Same article that you used It's highly effective when paired with a chastising as well as negative punishment, it's not a mystery The APA just doesn't want to advocate for it after everything they pulled through the 60s to the 80s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 "Corporal punishment leads to more immediate compliant behavior in children..." Same article that you used It's highly effective when paired with a chastising as well as negative punishment, it's not a mystery The APA just doesn't want to advocate for it after everything they pulled through the 60s to the 80s "...and physical abuse of the child by the parent." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psylobin 0 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 "...and physical abuse of the child by the parent." But ask one psychologist what physical abuse is, and the definition will differ from that of another. There is no science on this, just correlation. That's why psychology remains a disreputable soft science. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) And regardless, I just find it inhumane to beat your child to the ground and then post it online for everyone to see. I love your input and I feel like I can respect it more than the other replies because you are a parent :) I completely agree. I'm really shocked that so many people are defending the mom, and the only examples they have to back it up are themselves we are not "defending" her what she did was horrible, it was 2 much all we say is that a "slap in the face, a few hits on the butt or hand" like the user said in his comment where you "completely agreed" can help a kid to understand that certain things are wrong and should never be done again Edited April 25, 2014 by hans94 My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Honest to God, if you hit your kid, you shouldn't have a kid. It's lazy, pathetic, and reactionary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 But ask one psychologist what physical abuse is, and the definition will differ from that of another. There is no science on this, just correlation. That's why psychology remains a disreputable soft science. I think this mother's response to her child's irresponsible use of social media was excessive, inappropriate, and abusive. But I have discussed this at length already, so I'm going to see myself out of this thread. Feel free to pick up the debate with another user though, I think it's an important conversation to have. Now if you'd excuse me I have go to get a good nights sleep, so I have enough energy to beat the **** out of my son tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psylobin 0 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) I think this mother's response to her child's irresponsible use of social media was excessive, inappropriate, and abusive. But I have discussed this at length already, so I'm going to see myself out of this thread. Feel free to pick up the debate with another user though, I think it's an important conversation to have. Now if you'd excuse me I have go to get a good nights sleep, so I have enough energy to beat the **** out of my son tomorrow. Whatever will this woman do when a stranger tells her she shouldn't hit her daughter when she's probably a single mother taking care of 3+ kids in a foreign country How spoiled of you Edited April 25, 2014 by psylobin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,064 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 hm...i wonder if a boy posting shots of his chest would suffer the same.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psylobin 0 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 hm...i wonder if a boy posting shots of his chest would suffer the same.... No, but a boy posting d*ck pics would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,064 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Whatever will this woman do when a stranger tells her she shouldn't hit her daughter when she's probably a single mother taking care of 3+ kids in a foreign country How spoiled of you being "foreign" or "impoverished" doesnt excuse this. it may explain why violence and archaic forms of abuse that are socially accepted as "raising a child" are still in practice in other countries but that doesnt make it okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psylobin 0 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 being "foreign" or "impoverished" doesnt excuse this. it may explain why violence and archaic forms of abuse that are socially accepted as "raising a child" are still in practice in other countries but that doesnt make it okay. Why is it that in the USA it's seen as "archaic" yet globally nobody seems to be batting an eyelash? I swear all of you need something to talk about other than the real problems going on in your damn country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) And regardless, I just find it inhumane to beat your child to the ground and then post it online for everyone to see. I love your input and I feel like I can respect it more than the other replies because you are a parent :) I completely agree. I'm really shocked that so many people are defending the mom, and the only examples they have to back it up are themselves Thanks! ïŠLike Wonka said, this is really several steps too far and shows lack how you as a parent are too late with managing a proper direction, totally reactionary. Hiding behind a culture is ridiculous and stops your growth as a human. What happened to developing your values and morals? I know that culture myself coming from Eastern European parents they also do not shy away from a proper whooping. Belt, canes, shoes, fist if they have to. That’s not something I ever wanted for my own child, what’s wrong is wrong, regardless of any culture. Beating your kids results in more sneakiness and most definitely not make them wanna talk to you when they are in trouble. Why would they, that’s like asking to be beaten, nobody in their rind mind would want that, they will try to be more secretive next time. Plus you not teaching your kids to respect you but only to fear you. In my opinion key is really to guide them with every new thing they do. Ask them the proper questions to see if they understand what they are doing or what the consequences could be. I have a daughter that recently started to use Facebook and ground rules were set right away (if you are contacted by a stranger do no reply but show me, do not post anything /pictures you do not want the lady at the register in our supermarket to know about, do not add random people) and I check daily to see if our talks had an effect. So far she’s been good, asking me how to do stuff like PM’ing our address to one of her friends. Parenting takes a lot of time and effort, you start little but then have to widen the horizon of your child and guide them into new territories Edited April 25, 2014 by MonsterMum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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