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LateToCult
8 hours ago, Triggered said:

Throwback to when we thought PI will smash :selena:

 

 

Omg sis, horrible memories as a stan

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2 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

just clocked that PI teaser wasn't in the final MV

:neyde: 

The way that the teaser left us all believing that there would be a tornado in the MV, along with Gaga constantly tweeting tornado emojis. :air:

 

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3 hours ago, Triggered said:

This I don’t agree with. Gaga herself has said she’s very proud of her lead singles being nothing what you hear on the radio at the time of their respective releases. And she also said it’s always going to be this way. 

Ever since I heard Joanne in full it became obvious to me why they chose Perfect Illusion instead. PI was the closest to the classic Gaga sound on Joanne. 

Million Reasons and AYo sound like nothing Gaga has ever worked before. They were almost as hard to predict as PI.

:O When and where did she say this?

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10 hours ago, ArtGagaPop said:

 Throwback to when we didn't  knew  PI would flop yet :selena:

 

I knew it'd flop from first listen :selena: it was too loud and her vocals were too screechy and unfiltered...which is why I LOVE the song :selena: but yeah definitely not the type of song that becomes a hit. 

8 hours ago, ryanripley said:

i adore PI but do you think they only did radio interview promo cus they knew it wasn't gunna smash?

they just put all the money into MR instead?

I think as others mentioned they genuinely thought that it being the lead for Gaga's "comeback" was going to be enough. They also had a small radio deal apparently for the first week and probably thought it could build up after that but it just didn't. I have no clue how they thought it would of worked. Based on the interviews they did she really seemed to have thought it was going to do much better than it did. 

8 hours ago, Americano said:

I think they thought it would actually do well on radio and didn't need support from Gaga other than the radio interviews. Ironic with how it turned out lol.

At least MR took off eventually

Thank God MR did what it did! The era REALLY relied on that song. It still worried me though how radio was STFILL negligent when it comes to MR. Like it only had an overall radio audience of 72M and peaked at like #19 or something (?) even though it had all the indications of being a monster smash hit if properly supported by radio...It always had boosts on itunes whenever promoted and it was even performed on Superbowl and EVEN then that didnt manage to make it a proper radio hit. It worries me a bit about her relationship with radio in general for future singles. The Cure did even worse on radio (understandably due to a lack of promo or video) but still. I really wonder how her next single will do now. It will be interessting to track. 

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4 minutes ago, dit said:

The Cure did even worse on radio (understandably due to a lack of promo or video) but still. I really wonder how her next single will do now. It will be interessting to track. 

i thought The Cure did well on the radio! although i've only been in this charts thread for a couple of weeks so idrk :madge: 

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1 minute ago, ryanripley said:

i thought The Cure did well on the radio! although i've only been in this charts thread for a couple of weeks so idrk :madge: 

It did rather weak which always surprises me because ppl make it out to be have done well on radio but when u check out it's stats on over all radio it was pretty bad :selena: I guess us monsters just say it did good for not having a MV or performance but even then...songs in that vain should have at least reached an over all audience of 50M before a plausible MV release...the song peaked at 35.5M overall radio audience and quickly fell after that and only peaked at #52 on pop :selena: 

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5 minutes ago, ryanripley said:

i thought The Cure did well on the radio! although i've only been in this charts thread for a couple of weeks so idrk :madge: 

this is how the cure did in radio in the states :selena:

17/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 0.053
18/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 1.336 (+ 1.283)
19/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 2.808 (+ 1.472)
20/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 4.333 (+ 1.525)
21/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 5.949 (+ 1.616)
22/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 7.615 (+ 1.666) 
23/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 9.591 (+ 1.976)
24/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 11.201 (+ 1.610)
25/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 12.110 (+ 0.909)
26/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 13.252 (+ 1.142)
27/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 14.485 (+ 1.233) 
28/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 15.765 (+ 1.280)
29/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 15.516 (- 0.249) 
30/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 16.841 (+ 1.325) 
01/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 18.726 (+ 1.885)
02/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 19.479 (+ 0.753)
03/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 19.900 (+ 0.421)
04/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 20.173 (+ 0.273)
05/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 20.354 (+ 0.181)
06/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 20.660 (+ 0.306)
07/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 21.487 (+ 0.827)
08/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 21.619 (+ 0.132)
09/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 21.789 (+ 0.170)
10/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 22.299 (+ 0.510)
11/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 22.839 (+ 0.540)
12/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 23.110 (+ 0.271)
13/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 23.707 (+ 0.597)
14/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 24.458 (+ 0.751) 
15/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 25.244 (+ 0.786)
16/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 25.861 (+ 0.617)
17/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.077 (+ 0.216)
18/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.170 (+ 0.093)
19/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.514 (+ 0.344)
20/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.703 (+ 0.189)
21/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.591 (- 0.112)
22/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.290 (+ 0.699)
23/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.272 (- 0.018)
24/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.539 (+ 0.267)
25/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.743 (+ 0.204)
26/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.849 (+ 0.106)
27/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.819 (- 0.030)
28-29/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.159 (+ 0.340)
30/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.566 (+ 0.407)
31/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.594 (+ 0.028)
01/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.508 (- 0.086)
02/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.534 (+ 0.026)
03/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.768 (+ 0.234)
04/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.092 (+ 0.324)
05/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.993 (- 0.099)
06/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.784 (- 0.209)
07/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.796 (+ 0.012)
08/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.061 (+ 0.265)
09/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.300 (+ 0.239)
10/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.218 (- 0.082)
11/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.122 (- 0.096)
12/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.231 (+ 0.109)
13/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.393 (+ 0.162)
14/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.682 (+ 0.289)
15/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.593 (- 0.089)
16/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 30.220 (+ 0.627)
17/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 30.764 (+ 0.544) 
18/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 31.438 (+ 0.674)
19/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 32.072 (+ 0.634)
20/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 32.916 (+ 0.844)
21/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 33.511 (+ 0.595)
22/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.126 (+ 0.615) 
23/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.116 (- 0.010)
24/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.461 (+ 0.345)
25/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.554 (+ 0.093)
26/ 06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.704 (+ 0.150)
27/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.652 (- 0.052)
28/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.939 (+ 0.287)
29/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 35.790 (+0.851)  PEAK :giveup:
then it start to fall :selena: 

also is 35.7 @dit not 35.5 :selena:

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1 minute ago, MarlonBrando7 said:

this is how the cure did in radio in the states :selena:

17/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 0.053
18/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 1.336 (+ 1.283)
19/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 2.808 (+ 1.472)
20/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 4.333 (+ 1.525)
21/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 5.949 (+ 1.616)
22/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 7.615 (+ 1.666) 
23/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 9.591 (+ 1.976)
24/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 11.201 (+ 1.610)
25/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 12.110 (+ 0.909)
26/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 13.252 (+ 1.142)
27/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 14.485 (+ 1.233) 
28/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 15.765 (+ 1.280)
29/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 15.516 (- 0.249) 
30/04: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 16.841 (+ 1.325) 
01/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 18.726 (+ 1.885)
02/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 19.479 (+ 0.753)
03/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 19.900 (+ 0.421)
04/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 20.173 (+ 0.273)
05/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 20.354 (+ 0.181)
06/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 20.660 (+ 0.306)
07/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 21.487 (+ 0.827)
08/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 21.619 (+ 0.132)
09/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 21.789 (+ 0.170)
10/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 22.299 (+ 0.510)
11/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 22.839 (+ 0.540)
12/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 23.110 (+ 0.271)
13/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 23.707 (+ 0.597)
14/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 24.458 (+ 0.751) 
15/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 25.244 (+ 0.786)
16/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 25.861 (+ 0.617)
17/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.077 (+ 0.216)
18/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.170 (+ 0.093)
19/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.514 (+ 0.344)
20/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.703 (+ 0.189)
21/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 26.591 (- 0.112)
22/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.290 (+ 0.699)
23/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.272 (- 0.018)
24/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.539 (+ 0.267)
25/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.743 (+ 0.204)
26/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.849 (+ 0.106)
27/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.819 (- 0.030)
28-29/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.159 (+ 0.340)
30/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.566 (+ 0.407)
31/05: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.594 (+ 0.028)
01/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.508 (- 0.086)
02/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.534 (+ 0.026)
03/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.768 (+ 0.234)
04/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.092 (+ 0.324)
05/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.993 (- 0.099)
06/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.784 (- 0.209)
07/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.796 (+ 0.012)
08/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.061 (+ 0.265)
09/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.300 (+ 0.239)
10/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.218 (- 0.082)
11/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.122 (- 0.096)
12/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.231 (+ 0.109)
13/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.393 (+ 0.162)
14/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.682 (+ 0.289)
15/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 29.593 (- 0.089)
16/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 30.220 (+ 0.627)
17/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 30.764 (+ 0.544) 
18/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 31.438 (+ 0.674)
19/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 32.072 (+ 0.634)
20/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 32.916 (+ 0.844)
21/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 33.511 (+ 0.595)
22/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.126 (+ 0.615) 
23/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.116 (- 0.010)
24/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.461 (+ 0.345)
25/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.554 (+ 0.093)
26/ 06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.704 (+ 0.150)
27/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.652 (- 0.052)
28/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 34.939 (+ 0.287)
29/06: LADY GAGA - The Cure: 35.790 (+0.851)  PEAK :giveup:
then it start to fall :selena: 

also is 35.7 @dit not 35.5 :selena:

tragic :selena: BUT it did end up doing well in pure sales! 400k is good for a EDM song :selena:

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ArtGagaPop

I just think pop radio in the US are very ageist tbh and won't play songs by older artists as easy like they did when those pop stars were younger.

Beyoncé barely get's radio plays anymore, Pinks what about us underpeformed alot in the US compared to pretty much the rest of the world, keshas praying only Peaked at pop #9 despite being a big lead and comeback for her and her 2nd single is struggeling. CCTR went #8 and the rest of witness singles Floped. Cheap thrills took months for US radio to jump on despite smashing ww. Jts new stuff are doing bad, Britney haven't had a radio hit since 2011 etc. So it's just not gaga having a problem having a radio hit nowdays, almost all the artists that blew up around her time and her age is having it harder.  All these artists had #1 pop hit after hit but those times are over and HAC radio should be the focus now and streaming. 

Pop radio right now are all domminated by people in their early 20s like Camilla, bebe, dua, jb, selena, demi, Shawn, Charlie Puth and others. It will be hard for someone like Gaga to go #1 on pop again.

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On 2/21/2018 at 10:25 AM, Supersonic said:

Can't believe I'm saying this but.... Perfect Illusion literally outsold

the cure US sales outsold and TC was a buzz single with no video.

I'm a swiftie btw but I can a accept when a song flops :toofunny: at least EndGame is a cute decent streaming hit.

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Troye Sivan- MMM

Peaked at #13 on the Australian chart and is still charting, not bad:firega:

he has four top 20 hits in Australia. 

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