JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Okay, don't put words in my mouth. I wasn't trying to compare her to Jesus and I think you know that. You can scroll through my posts, and you can see that I'm not a blind follower of Gaga's. There is plenty of stuff that she does that I hate and there have been plenty of times. She wasn't wrong for giving someone a chance, she was lied to. And he said they he was trying to change very publicly around the time that gaga became his friend, so stop making sh*t up about how he never said he was going to change is website until 2012. If he said tomorrow that he was sorry for all of his posts and how mean he was and how he is going to change, I hope that we'd all be able to forgive him. EVERYONE deserves to be forgive. And you need to stop talking about domestic abuse. It's something that you CLEARLY have to comprehension of and you really should stop talking about it like you do, you're looking like a d-bag. You were doing the SAME thing to my posts, so I did the same to yours, karma MJHolland. Also, you did say that. You said you're sorry Gaga is more 'jesus-like' than me for becoming friends with a COMPLETE douchebag, who was continuing to be a douchebag. She gave him a chance but he was STILL being an asshole how old are you? And I'm NOT a liar - Perez Hilton says he's making a change In a YouTube video titled “I’m Going To Be Doing Things Differently,†celebrity blogger Perez Hilton addresses his actions over the last few years on PerezHilton.com and apologizes for bullying celebrities.' http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/13/perez-hilton-says-hes-making-a-change/ My years were wrong, it was in 2010, still years after he was friends with Gaga If he said it TOMORROW and Gaga became friends with him again, you would still think Gaga shouldn't see him potentially stalking her in the future? Okay. I see. What about my point is wrong? You CLEARLY know nothing about it. So you friend gets beat by her BF once, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY TO HER? Go back? All I"m saying is that you CAN say - 'Hey - maybe you should see this coming' - what is wrong in that? Stop trying to act like you know anything because you sound offensively stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Are you guys 10 years old? You guys think someone who believes she shouldn't be friends with the scum of the earth in the first place is stanning more than people who are justifying someone becoming friends with them? Okay...I'm learning a lot about this forum. Okay and another thing... You talk as if you knew every aspect in their relationship as friends. You have absolutely no clue what went on behind closed door and what he said to her to make her believe him. She's a smart gal, and you have no grounds on saying whether or not she misplaced her trust in him ​because you have absolutely no idea what their friendship was like or what was said in between the two that made gaga trust him. I hate when people like you assume that everything that goes on in a celebrities life is broadcasted to the general public. Maybe Perez needed someone at that time. What if she never gave him a chance? Would you be on here now saying that "Well what if Gaga gave him a chance? Then maybe, just maybe he wouldn't be the mean and nasty person he is today." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Except "Angela" has been quoted in major publications and it's now spread as fact. For some dumb reason, people use (or used) the Examiner as a legit source. I'm sure that fact was not lost on him. It's not like Media Takeout or Crazy Days and Nights, it was framed as a real news story. Plus as far as I know, this is the first time he's ever taken to actual stalking. For all she knew the ramifications would just be penis doodles on her visage and shady articles his site. No one deserves to be stalked. (Also no one deserves to be beaten, like you're trying to imply with that Chris Brown mention). If Katy were to befriend him after this I'd side-eye the **** out of her just like I did Gaga at the time. Now does Katy deserve to be stalked? No. I changed my wording - it was my mistake, I didn't mean 'deserve' - she doesn't deserve it, no one deserves it. I said she should have seen it coming, that was my point. Also MediaTakeOut stories get framed as the real thing all the time, they lost a lot of relevance around 2012 You don't remember EVERY news source claiming Bey is faking her pregnancy? Again, Angela Cheng is a COMPLETE non factor and just another tabloid. Agree with the side eye though, completely lol. Okay and another thing... You talk as if you knew every aspect in their relationship as friends. You have absolutely no clue what went on behind closed door and what he said to her to make her believe him. She's a smart gal, and you have no grounds on saying whether or not she misplaced her trust in him ​because you have absolutely no idea what their friendship was like or what was said in between the two that made gaga trust him. I hate when people like you assume that everything that goes on in a celebrities life is broadcasted to the general public. Maybe Perez needed someone at that time. What if she never gave him a chance? Would you be on here now saying that "Well what if Gaga gave him a chance? Then maybe, just maybe he wouldn't be the mean and nasty person he is today." I'm not talking to you anymore, you're a huge stan. A lot of other people in this thread actually have rational posts - not blind stannism like you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I changed my wording - it was my mistake, I didn't mean 'deserve' - she doesn't deserve it, no one deserves it. I said she should have seen it coming, that was my point. Also MediaTakeOut stories get framed as the real thing all the time, they lost a lot of relevance around 2012 You don't remember EVERY news source claiming Bey is faking her pregnancy? Again, Angela Cheng is a COMPLETE non factor and just another tabloid. Agree with the side eye though, completely lol. I'm not talking to you anymore, you're a huge stan. A lot of other people in this thread actually have rational posts - not blind stannism like you. Except I'm not a "stan" for Gaga 100% of the time, as you can easily see in my pervious posts. Please go do your homework before make accusations. And literally every single person in this thread thinks you're wrong and I'm here explaining to you why you're so wrong (like you've been asking people to do) and now what I have to say is somehow "blinded" by my undying support of Gaga?!?!?! We ALL think you're being an a**hole, a**hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Is there an ignore button? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryhanna 3,507 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Yeah, she probably should have seen it coming, but I can't blame her for being naive and wanting to see the good in people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Yeah, she probably should have seen it coming, but I can't blame her for being naive and wanting to see the good in people. Very good post I know Gaga can be too nice sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivingtonreject 2 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 OH MY ACTUAL.... WHERE IS DIS GIF FROM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I changed my wording - it was my mistake, I didn't mean 'deserve' - she doesn't deserve it, no one deserves it. I said she should have seen it coming, that was my point. Also MediaTakeOut stories get framed as the real thing all the time, they lost a lot of relevance around 2012 You don't remember EVERY news source claiming Bey is faking her pregnancy? Again, Angela Cheng is a COMPLETE non factor and just another tabloid. For most, that $25 million rumor was far more believable than a prosthetic baby bump. The former further damages her reputation as an artist and a brand, and it was believable to many who don't know how a major label's budget works (which is the vast majority of people). Angela turned into a factor once her lies started to spread to formerly respectable places like the Telegraph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 For most, that $25 million rumor was far more believable than a prosthetic baby bump. The former further damages her reputation as an artist and a brand, and it was believable to many who don't know how a major label's budget works (which is the vast majority of people). Angela turned into a factor once her lies started to spread to formerly respectable places like the Telegraph. Oh come on, the fake pregnancy was bigger lol. Jay-Z, who never issues statements, had to come out and say in a very respectful interview with Vanity Fair that it wasn't true. That news was all over the place, people were posting pics of her tummy and what not, it was disgusting. Angela Cheng gets posted nowhere other than this site and ATRL because Gaga fans follow it. Yes the 25 million rumour came out but it was has been shut down as fake and credible sources know it's fake as well, it was just a rumour that got some traction for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Now yes, she can choose her friends the way she wants, but to complain about having him not leave her alone now is wrong IMO - it's like if you choose to hang out with a murderer and than complain when you friend gets killed or dating Chris Brown and than complaining about getting beat. Perez was always a celeb stalker who lived off drama. I don't agree with this. What you are saying is similar to when people say that girls are "asking for it" when they dress is provocitive clothes and then get raped. Being naive or even doing stupid things doesn't make it okay for someone to take advantage of you. Anyway, I feel like Gaga was sort of desperate at the beginning of her career. I think her desperation to be famous blinded her a lot. Or maybe she didn't realize that Perez was as bad as he is. Maybe she met him before going on his site and he may have seemed like a nice guy in person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Oh come on, the fake pregnancy was bigger lol. Jay-Z, who never issues statements, had to come out and say in a very respectful interview with Vanity Fair that it wasn't true. That news was all over the place, people were posting pics of her tummy and what not, it was disgusting. Angela Cheng gets posted nowhere other than this site and ATRL because Gaga fans follow it. Yes the 25 million rumour came out but it was has been shut down as fake and credible sources know it's fake as well, it was just a rumour that got some traction for a bit. I may be biased because everyone I knew called bull**** on those dumb rumors. It's stupid that he had to address them, but in the end Beyoncè is not polarizing in the way that Gaga is right now. Bey has always been more respected, no one was calling her "over"for underperforming with 4. Gaga OTOH puts out an album that underperforms both critically and chart -wise, and with a shorter time in the business. Therefore a rumor like that is going to affect her career far more than Bey's since Gaga is on shoddy ground to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 I don't agree with this. What you are saying is similar to when people say that girls are "asking for it" when they dress is provocitive clothes and then get raped. Being naive or even doing stupid things doesn't make it okay for someone to take advantage of you. Anyway, I feel like Gaga was sort of desperate at the beginning of her career. I think her desperation to be famous blinded her a lot. Or maybe she didn't realize that Perez was as bad as he is. Maybe she met him before going on his site and he may have seemed like a nice guy in person. Ya, it's my mistake, I really didn't mean they deserve it. I just said I personally feel like they should see it coming, but I really don't agree with the raping thing as an example. Again, I feel like someone becoming friends with a rapist would be a better a--logy, because Gaga wasn't just around Perez she literally became his friend. She doesn't deserve anything to happen to her for being too nice, but I think she should have seen it coming. Also I agree with her using him. She definitely knew who he was though lol. I may be biased because everyone I knew called bull**** on those dumb rumors. It's stupid that he had to address them, but in the end Beyoncè is not polarizing in the way that Gaga is right now. Bey has always been more respected, no one was calling her "over"for underperforming with 4. Gaga OTOH puts out an album that underperforms both critically and chart -wise, and with a shorter time in the business. Therefore a rumor like that is going to affect her career far more than Bey's since Gaga is on shoddy ground to begin with. Okay, I see your point, honestly. Perez took it to another level. He shouldn't have, but I still awfully wish Gaga never associated with him in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMum 2,532 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 OH MY ACTUAL.... WHERE IS DIS GIF FROM? RTL II commercial Germany ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryhanna 3,507 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Very good post I know Gaga can be too nice sometimes Thank you. I agree, Gaga can be too nice sometimes. It's such a great trait to have, and there need to be way more people like her in the world. But at the same time, it's so easy for people to take advantage of kindness and faith, and it seems like that's exactly what Perez did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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