elijahfan 26,112 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 exactly, that's the point. okay, you tried to give him a chance, but he turned around and treated you like everyone else, now you're surprised? there's taking responsibility for your actions. Who says she was surprised, though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 105,815 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Not true at all. Not from what I've seen at least. You and I both know my a--logy - Katy becoming friends with Perez a couple of months from now because she said he said he was changing (whilst slandering celebs daily) - and he starts to annoy her and stalk her, EVERYONE would say she should have saw it coming. You've been a member for a week. Trust me. People do criticize her here. And no one deserves anything just because "they saw it coming" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdsgn 1,913 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 That's not true at all Stefani. If all your friends know a guy is an EXTREME player who cheats on his girls, and you say he said to you he is changing and what not, date him and he cheats on you, your friends will sit there and think to themselves 'you should have known better' STANNING? I hate the guy COMPLETELY. He is my LEAST favorite person on the planet. That's why I think Gaga is an UTTER FOOL for being friends with him in the first place. The people defending Gaga's friendship with him in the first place are the ones 'stanning' for him more than me! Lmao. You're the one sat there defending him saying it's his "job". It's not his job. It's his job to be a gossip, not to be a c***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 That is his job as a gossiper!! He follows celebrities around ALL the time lmao. He has photographers constantly waiting for them, this comes with the whole 'Perez' package when you become friends with him. Yeah, I'm sure most bloggers makeup false identities, obsess about them on the daily for years, and try to move into the same building as the person they're fixated on. That Just Jared guy needs to take some pointers obviously. I criticize Gaga at times, and we're not blind stans just because we don't buy into this twisted, victim blaming nonsense. Like I said, he's taken this to another level, what do you not understand? lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 You've been a member for a week. Trust me. People do criticize her here. And no one deserves anything just because "they saw it coming" I changed my wording, not saying she deserves it, that was bad communication on my part, I didn't mean that. I mean she should have saw it coming, do you still disagree with me? Who says she was surprised, though? Well, see if you put it this way than that's cool. If she knew it was coming than I have no issues with it. Some people in this thread are acting like she made no mistake in becoming friends with such a loser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 WHILE she was friends with him he was slaughtering celebrities like it was his day job (oh wait it was his job)! This is a HORRIBLE excuse, she probably said this to justify why he was friends with her. Perez himself publicly declared he was trying to become a better person in 2012 - yeeears after him and Gaga were friends. How about you point it out? It's hypocritical because everyone deserves a chance. If someone can see the good in another human and wants to HELP them reform and become the good person that they know that human can become, and that person invests their trust into that other person because they genuinely want to see that person become better, but then they have that trust broken it's suddenly their fault?! For wanting to help that person see the good in themselves??? And what you're doing is called victim shaming. Because Gaga wanted to be there for another human, no matter how sick or mean they happened to be, it's her fault for being attacked by that person? I guess Gaga is a lot more Jesus-like than you because she can actually see the good in people and wants to help bring it out (and coming from me, that's rare to say because I'm not a religious person). It's why we don't lock all murderers or rapists up in jail for the rest of their lives or sentence them to death row. Everyone has a chance to reform themselves and everyone deserves someone to be there for them to help them along that journey. And btw, you're example of domestic abuse was 1000% off, and off topic too. The psychology that goes into the complex relationship between women (or men) and their abusers is much, much more deep than anyone without a degree in psychology can understand. The average woman goes back to her abuser more than SEVEN times. It's not a rare thing for people to go in and out of their domestic abuse relationship multiple times because there is a very complex emotional, physical, and economical trap that you have absolutely no comprehension of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Yeah, I'm sure most bloggers makeup false identities, obsess about them on the daily for years, and try to move into the same building as the person they're fixated on. That Just Jared guy needs to take some pointers obviously. I criticize Gaga at times, and we're not blind stans just because we don't buy into this twisted, victim blaming nonsense. Like I said, he's taken this to another level, what do you not understand? lol What are you talking about making 'false identities'? Angela Cheng? This is nothing outside of the internet, it doesnt' affect Gaga's day at all, you know how many broke blogs post about Beyonce cheating on a daily basis? The only thing was that hotel thing once, and every since than he hasn't been able to do anything because he will get sued. I'm not justifying this, its HORRIBLE - but HOW did Gaga not see this coming? He's a DISGUSTING human being gossiper who became friends with the biggest pop star on the planet. You're the one sat there defending him saying it's his "job". It's not his job. It's his job to be a gossip, not to be a c***. He has ALWAYS been a ****! LMFAO. He was WORSE when Gaga became friends with him. That's my entire point! It's hypocritical because everyone deserves a chance. If someone can see the good in another human and wants to HELP them reform and become the good person that they know that human can become, and that person invests their trust into that other person because they genuinely want to see that person become better, but then they have that trust broken it's suddenly their fault?! For wanting to help that person see the good in themselves??? And what you're doing is called victim shaming. Because Gaga wanted to be there for another human, no matter how sick or mean they happened to be, it's her fault for being attacked by that person? I guess Gaga is a lot more Jesus-like than you because she can actually see the good in people and wants to help bring it out (and coming from me, that's rare to say because I'm not a religious person). It's why we don't lock all murderers or rapists up in jail for the rest of their lives or sentence them to death row. Everyone has a chance to reform themselves and everyone deserves someone to be there for them to help them along that journey. And btw, you're example of domestic abuse was 1000% off, and off topic too. The psychology that goes into the complex relationship between women (or men) and their abusers is much, much more deep than anyone without a degree in psychology can understand. The average woman goes back to her abuser more than SEVEN times. It's not a rare thing for people to go in and out of their domestic abuse relationship multiple times because there is a very complex emotional, physical, and economical trap that you have absolutely no comprehension of. Oh my god, her becoming friends with Perez is 'Jesus-like' This is what I mean by blindly stanning people, this is just disgusting. You're justifying her becoming friends with a complete asshole, saying he was getting better WHILE he was still slandering celebs daily! He wasn't acting on it at ALL. Yes, if a woman gets back with her abusive husband 7 times, around the second time you can start telling her 'Hey, YOU SHOULD SEE THIS COMING' - by the fifth time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 105,815 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I changed my wording, not saying she deserves it, that was bad communication on my part, I didn't mean that. I mean she should have saw it coming, do you still disagree with me? Well, see if you put it this way than that's cool. If she knew it was coming than I have no issues with it. Some people in this thread are acting like she made no mistake in becoming friends with such a loser. Maybe she DID see it coming. People can change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'll own up to my mistakes - I truly didn't mean 'deserve' That was completely my fault and I suck at English lmao - I meant she should have seen this coming, because I saw this coming, and everyone who knows what Perez is about probably saw this coming. I'll own up to that mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Not true at all. Not from what I've seen at least. It is true. If you had spent longer than a week being a member here, you would know that. I thought you were "leaving" a few posts ago? :roll: Just as I suspected, you are here just to flamebait and stir up trouble. No one is buying your trolling threads as a concerned fan expressing their opinions. You are not fooling anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 It is true. If you had spent longer than a week being a member here, you would know that. I thought you were "leaving" a few posts ago? :roll: Just as I suspected, you are here just to flamebait and stir up trouble. No one is buying your trolling threads as a concerned fan expressing their opinions. You are not fooling anyone. What the ****? Oh my god you guys are so dramatic I was leaving but some other people quoted me so I responded, sorry sue me I actually feel like I've been proven wrong - by that guy who said 'who says she's surprised' - I respect GOOD posts. That was a good ass point, i'm talking out of my ass in that sense. I just PERSONALLY disagree with anyone who is justifying her becoming friends with such a sick person in the first place. I'm sorry if you think I'm trolling because of that. Who says she was surprised, though? You shut me down with this lol, good post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Why are you stanning for Perez you need to stop. You're the second person I've seen this week stanning for him (maybe that was you too) and it's shocking and disturbing. What if it is Perez, what then? ;) You are right, no one defends Perez to this level! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Oh my god, her becoming friends with Perez is 'Jesus-like' This is what I mean by blindly stanning people, this is just disgusting. You're justifying her becoming friends with a complete asshole, saying he was getting better WHILE he was still slandering celebs daily! He wasn't acting on it at ALL. Yes, if a woman gets back with her abusive husband 7 times, around the second time you can start telling her 'Hey, YOU SHOULD SEE THIS COMING' - by the fifth time... Okay, don't put words in my mouth. I wasn't trying to compare her to Jesus and I think you know that. You can scroll through my posts, and you can see that I'm not a blind follower of Gaga's. There is plenty of stuff that she does that I hate and there have been plenty of times. She wasn't wrong for giving someone a chance, she was lied to. And he said they he was trying to change very publicly around the time that gaga became his friend, so stop making sh*t up about how he never said he was going to change is website until 2012. If he said tomorrow that he was sorry for all of his posts and how mean he was and how he is going to change, I hope that we'd all be able to forgive him. EVERYONE deserves to be forgive. And you need to stop talking about domestic abuse. It's something that you CLEARLY have to comprehension of and you really should stop talking about it like you do, you're looking like a d-bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahKing 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 What if it is Perez, what then? ;) You are right, no one defends Perez to this level! Are you guys 10 years old? You guys think someone who believes she shouldn't be friends with the scum of the earth in the first place is stanning more than people who are justifying someone becoming friends with them? Okay...I'm learning a lot about this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 What are you talking about making 'false identities'? Angela Cheng? This is nothing outside of the internet, it doesnt' affect Gaga's day at all, you know how many broke blogs post about Beyonce cheating on a daily basis? The only thing was that hotel thing once, and every since than he hasn't been able to do anything because he will get sued. I'm not justifying this, its HORRIBLE - but HOW did Gaga not see this coming? He's a DISGUSTING human being gossiper who became friends with the biggest pop star on the planet. Except "Angela" has been quoted in major publications and it's now spread as fact. For some dumb reason, people use (or used) the Examiner as a legit source. I'm sure that fact was not lost on him. It's not like Media Takeout or Crazy Days and Nights, it was framed as a real news story. Plus as far as I know, this is the first time he's ever taken to actual stalking. For all she knew the ramifications would just be penis doodles on her visage and shady articles his site. No one deserves to be stalked. (Also no one deserves to be beaten, like you're trying to imply with that Chris Brown mention). If Katy were to befriend him after this I'd side-eye the **** out of her just like I did Gaga at the time. Now does Katy deserve to be stalked? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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