Whispering 18,865 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 For the nth time, payola should never be confused with radio bias. The latter is a fact that happens everywhere, especially when business is involved. The former remains nothing but an accusation until actually proven with tangible evidence aside from the usual conspiracy theories online. Payola implies someone has to illegally pay for them to be played. Bias occurs when one is unfairly being overplayed compared to others. There's clearly bias on radio over those who have garnered hits after hits in a consistent basis. That's indisputable. 'Payola', however, isn't. There is legal payola. It has existed for ages. Then there are the gray areas and labels find a way to take full advantage of those areas, and obviously some labels are more willing to push these lines to the edge or even over it than others. You are correct, radio bias is always present. It becomes interesting when it is over and beyond what's typically seen, even for the successful hitmakers. That's what makes people wonder what type of payola (legal and gray area "benefits") record labels are going to for a particular artist's benefit. It also makes people wonder why the bias is so extreme, when it is above and beyond any other hitmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray of Light 8,134 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I looked up this Meghan Trainor girl and I'm honestly a underwhelmed and somewhat worried :rip: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I looked up this Meghan Trainor girl and I'm honestly a underwhelmed and somewhat worried Listening to the AATB song now. Really underwhelmed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Just watched the THIWD video. Really underwhelming too. Literally all the verses were taken literally and at the other parts you see random objects teenagers think are cool at least it made the song sound a little bit less awkward! And now listened to Anaconda. Really awkward. 'oh my gosh look at her butt' and listened to Black Widow. Honestly it's pretty good, and the video (after the intro) is beautiful. The chorus is really nice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Where have you been guys... :rip: "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,805 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I looked up this Meghan Trainor girl and I'm honestly a underwhelmed and somewhat worried IMO, the song is pretty catchy, I didn't like it at first but it grew on me, even though the lyrics are cringe-worthy and the message as well. But it just sounds so good! Well, except for the last 45 seconds of the song where she literally sings the same thing over and over again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Where have you been guys... luc was without internet or sth like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowyrain 38 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Where's Taylor ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 ARTPOP 182 in Australia, it was out of the top 200 yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 ARTPOP 182 in Australia, it was out of the top 200 yesterday slay, aussies better buy it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 TW TW+ Artist and Title Spins Spin+ Bullet Bullet+ Aud Aud+ iTunes 1 = SAM SMITH Stay With Me 17142 -3 163 +68 111.407 -0.323 9 2 = MAGIC! Rude 16580 -49 -599 +75 105.750 -0.155 4 3 = DISCLOSURE Latch f/Sam Smit... 15008 -53 -383 +2 89.321 -0.014 234 +1 CHARLI XCX Boom Clap 13955 +342 2210 +242 90.737 +1.884 11 wtf 5 -1 NICO & VINZ Am I Wrong 13809 -438 -2175 -294 87.693 -2.519 18 6 = MAROON 5 Maps 11471 +60 530 +5 66.259 +0.290 137 +1 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Ca... 9477 +62 393 +85 57.358 +0.496 35 8 -1 ARIANA GRANDE Problem f/Igg... 9418 -252 -1626 +90 60.976 -1.554 109 +1 ARIANA GRANDE Break Free f/... 8644 +88 591 +36 54.961 +0.626 3 10 -1 CLEAN BANDIT Rather Be f/Je... 8631 +16 626 -146 56.544 +0.348 7 11 = SIA Chandelier 7964 +85 661 +93 49.217 +0.330 8 12 +1 ENRIQUE IGLESIAS Bailando f... 7332 +104 927 +10 58.722 +0.591 25 13 +1 IGGY AZALEA Black Widow f/R... 7321 +131 655 +96 43.891 +0.809 5 14 -2 ONEREPUBLIC Love Runs Out 7073 -238 -1557 -114 34.060 -1.771 19 15 = IGGY AZALEA Fancy f/Charlie... 6749 -75 -1303 +243 46.157 -0.470 24/5316 +2 MEGHAN TRAINOR All About Th... 6432 +358 2165 +141 37.164 +2.780 1 17 -1 CALVIN HARRIS Summer 6391 -37 -1071 +288 41.601 -0.631 5118 -1 JESSIE J/A. GRANDE/N. MINAJ... 6233 +141 1272 -23 38.594 +0.968 2 19 = BECKY G Shower 5321 +15 -71 +0 23.241 +0.217 14 20 +1 KIESZA Hideaway 3912 +194 595 +200 24.717 +0.890 37 YES, finally strong updates 21 -1 PHARRELL WILLIAMS Come Get ... 3640 -431 -2481 -154 13.647 -1.943 77 22 +2 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER Amnesia 3479 +133 670 +46 16.074 +0.370 3323 = ECHOSMITH Cool Kids 3440 +71 650 -41 17.587 +0.267 15 24 -2 RITA ORA I Will Never Let Y... 3439 -42 40 -121 15.402 -0.246 99 25 = ED SHEERAN Don't 3221 +51 384 +58 15.968 +0.538 3826 +2 JEREMIH Don't Tell 'Em f/YG 2851 +264 1053 +110 21.507 +1.313 26 Really big update. Might make it close to Top 15 27 = INGRID MICHAELSON Girls Cha... 2734 +63 363 +41 11.871 +0.111 42 28 -2 FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE This I... 2684 -2 179 +4 12.960 -0.083 54 29 = TINASHE 2 On f/Schoolboy Q 2466 +29 279 -24 13.355 +0.238 73 30 = TOVE LO Habits (Stay High) 2330 +144 689 +75 14.350 +1.412 10431 +1 KATY PERRY This Is How We D... 2306 +209 1321 +108 12.917 +1.297 59 32 -1 COLDPLAY A Sky Full Of Star... 2195 +47 409 -21 15.194 +0.664 39 33 = MADDEN BROTHERS We Are Done 1818 -22 -196 +53 5.235 +0.054 --34 +4 NICKI MINAJ Anaconda 1258 +117 434 -36 4.987 +0.141 29 35 +2 THE 1975 Girls 1192 +47 145 +68 3.013 +0.133 -- 36 = PITBULL Fireball f/John Rya... 1188 +29 333 -28 8.710 -0.057 45 37 -2 STEVE AOKI, C. LAKE & TUJAM... 1180 +1 59 -68 7.224 -0.118 81 38 +1 FIFTH HARMONY BO$$ 1132 +8 49 -10 3.782 +0.116 70 39 -5 TIESTO Wasted 1056 -130 -921 +98 5.339 -0.689 103 40 = JASON DERULO Wiggle f/Snoop... 997 -17 -238 +123 4.409 -0.024 48 41 +1 ED SHEERAN Sing 933 -25 -246 +47 4.323 -0.037 109 42 +1 USHER She Came To Give It T... 932 -16 -14 -14 2.319 -0.079 -- 43 -2 KONGOS Come With Me Now 905 -84 -518 +36 4.126 -0.428 17 44 = JAKE MILLER First Flight Ho... 897 +24 112 +13 2.884 +0.071 -- 45 = MR PROBZ Waves 739 -1 85 -20 5.504 +0.282 90 46 +1 G.R.L. Ugly Heart 667 +52 79 +41 1.675 +0.210 -- 47 +2 KIM CESARION Undressed 593 +42 217 +24 2.182 +0.256 -- 48 -2 AJR I'm Ready 583 -56 -420 +48 2.473 -0.202 69 49 -1 CHILDISH GAMBINO V. 3005 568 +5 60 -8 3.098 -0.084 -- 50 -- LIL JON Bend Ova f/Tyga 546 -- 255 -- 2.103 -- 133 ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake 0 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 You are wrong. Like stated before, any song that consistently stays in the top 11-20 is fair game for Pop radio PDs. They know that there are rotating songs, especially at certain times of the year. They also have to balance their playlists with a mixture of ballads, dance, R&B, and rap collab songs. They might consider trying to balance males, females, groups and teen artists. They also might consider if the song is a debut, second, third, fourth, etc. single. At any given time, there will be several songs in the top 20 that Pop won't even consider playing. Then don't. And aren't you a fan? Well, I'm the same. Many here are the same. Fans who like to chart watch and a--lyze numbers, despite who their "faves" are. Sure, but that's not what I'm doing. I'm just simply looking at the radio stats and patterns and drawing conclusions. The music boards I belong to, who have fans of many artists, feel the same about this obvious and unprecedented radio bias. I'm just looking at numbers also and drawing the conclusion that DJs see Katy as a safe spin because of her unprecedented single success. Are they more likely to play her? Yes. But are people more likely to buy and listen to her records than anyone else in the game right now? Yes. That's why I don't see it as a bias. As long as she's the hottest pop girl of course radio will devour what she puts out. Gaga experienced the exact same "bias" and airplay dominance until Born This Way. I am glad we were able to have a logical conversation about this thoughâ€â€a rarity on the internet and pop music forums. --- Now, they better put Taylor single up quick I want experience the slayage. :legend: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 ARTPOP 182 in Australia, it was out of the top 200 yesterday Cool, lets hope this implies to tickets too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'm honestly surprised Bang Bang is a hit. It doesn't really have a strong hook and it's pretty weak imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 18 -1 JESSIE J/A. GRANDE/N. MINAJ... 6233 +141 1272 -23 38.594 +0.968 2 im pissed it's selling SO WELL I'm honestly surprised Bang Bang is a hit. It doesn't really have a strong hook and it's pretty weak imo i don;t really like it either sounds like a demo and verses are bad i like the bridge not the best verse form onika tho but it's selling so well and radio is not playing it 31 +1 KATY PERRY This Is How We D... 2306 +209 1321 +108 12.917 +1.297 59 wow.... 34 +4 NICKI MINAJ Anaconda 1258 +117 434 -36 4.987 +0.141 29 11 = SIA Chandelier 7964 +85 661 +93 49.217 +0.330 8 the song is in top 10 of itunes for months it is selling well video is epic and doing amazingly yet it's not top 10 on radio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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