Ascetic 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Yes but Fernando produced Stars Are Blind by Paris Hilton. It's a good song, but it's definetly generic. Americano is kinda weak in production and Fashion Of His Love sounds pretty dated and even recycled. Earthquake and Love Is a Suicide (by Natalia Kills) have many similarities with Dance In The Dark. A different and experimental sound doesn't equates to a good song. So what? Dr. Luke produced all of Teenage Dream and Kelly Clarkson's tracks, which all sound the same, then produced Dark Horse, which was a complete shift in his production A producer can produce GP friendly tracks or an experimental track and it doesn't have to be a hit for you to recognize it's a good song, which is subjective anyways I don't know. It just never sounded new or fresh to me. Probably because it wasn't as "busy" as the rest of the album, or maybe something along those lines? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Because he recycled it from an unreleased track and didn't even bother to change some things to make it different I seriously hope we get to see a lot more of him in the next album pls gags Links Me too I hope ACT II never surfaces :emma: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memo 176 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Links Me too I hope ACT II never surfaces https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT-4K3qWTEI be careful what you wish for what if all the good songs are in ACT II and she never releases it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT-4K3qWTEI be careful what you wish for what if all the good songs are in ACT II and she never releases it This is awful I don't ever want to her that he is a good producer again :emma: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedi 3 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I don't think she knows what ARTPOP is and so nobody knows Yeah, she's incorrectly and correctly referenced some earlier paintings and mythology, but so what? How is that artistic? Is that not just a reference? Maybe I'm missing stuff Her explanation is that it's putting art in pop culture [pop music] by referencing artists.. in reverse to Warhol who put pop culture figures like Marilyn in fine art paintings. She also adds other stuff in like putting artists in the forefront of the creation in the commercial world as apposed to their output controlled by corporations, but I really think on releasing the album that first sentence was the crux of what she was going with... but IMO it's not really much of an idea.. or at least the execution Guessing your talking about her birth of venus/venus de milo oopsy. Well her reasoning for that, go back to the first sentence^ but indeed.. yeah... I could say a lot more on that ARTPOP ideology Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Her explanation is that it's putting art in pop culture [pop music] by referencing artists.. in reverse to Warhol who put pop culture figures like Marilyn in fine art paintings. She also adds other stuff in like putting artists in the forefront of the creation in the commercial world as apposed to their output controlled by corporations, but I really think on releasing the album that first sentence was the crux of what she was going with... but IMO it's not really much of an idea.. or at least the execution Guessing your talking about her birth of venus/venus de milo oopsy. Well her reasoning for that, go back to the first sentence^ but indeed.. yeah... I could say a lot more on that ARTPOP ideology But she hasn't really done that, just a few times Even the videos show minimal artistic references sadly Idk I just don't feel it this era :shrug: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 So what? Dr. Luke produced all of Teenage Dream and Kelly Clarkson's tracks, which all sound the same, then produced Dark Horse, which was a complete shift in his production A producer can produce GP friendly tracks or an experimental track and it doesn't have to be a hit for you to recognize it's a good song, which is subjective anyways Probably because it wasn't as "busy" as the rest of the album, or maybe something along those lines? I'm not saying that Fernando is generic. I'm just saying that you can't be sure he's going to do something experimental or good since he has some hits and misses. You said that Zedds productions sound the same but some of Garibays productions are pretty similar too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedi 3 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 This is awful I don't ever want to her that he is a good producer again How awkward is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYh7FjuvbVY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memo 176 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 This is awful I don't ever want to her that he is a good producer again well he is but I don't know how to defend him now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedi 3 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 But she hasn't really done that, just a few times Even the videos show minimal artistic references sadly Idk I just don't feel it this era Exactly, and like I said.. she went from doing that.. ArtRave with exhibition / posing for Rob Wilson as famous paintings + dressing up in Mona Lisa/ as Picasso to prove she's ARTPOP .. to then - IMO being normal and cute and happy and more 'marketable' shall we say - with SNL/GMA Wizard of Oz/AMAs.. it's like .... But yeah I agree I don't really feel the concept too much.. her other albums had themes that she could roll with.. but with this it's mainly just.. the world of art.. so it's a bit.. mainly referential to prove it... that's not to say I hate everything this era or dislike everything she's done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Five Ten 70 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I feel like Gaga has been pretty consistent with graduating one of the supporting producers on each album to main producer on her next. Fernando worked a bit on TFM but then took the reigns on BTW. White Shadow worked on BTW but then took the reigns on AP. I feel like the next album will be really Zedd heavy. Probably more Madeon heavy. Zedd is out there forging some kind of David Guetta-esque career for himself now and producing an entire Gaga album where he doesn't get obvious credit to the GP would be detrimental to his own star-power. Wouldn't be surprised if they keep working together though or if Gaga features on a song of his (which really would be her biggest shot at a #1 if she did care about charts, which she doesn't).And for the record, Fernando is my favourite Gaga producer. He slayed on BTW>>>>> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 How awkward is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYh7FjuvbVY She performs it too? Oh god I'm not saying that Fernando is generic. I'm just saying that you can't be sure he's going to do something experimental or good since he has some hits and misses. You said that Zedds productions sound the same but some of Garibays productions are pretty similar too. Far more hits than misses compared to Zedd, as well as far less copy/pasting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
judaslover 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I feel like Gaga has been pretty consistent with graduating one of the supporting producers on each album to main producer on her next. Fernando worked a bit on TFM but then took the reigns on BTW. White Shadow worked on BTW but then took the reigns on AP. I feel like the next album will be really Zedd heavy. This. I noticed about this too, but didn't know how to put it into words. I like how you use the term, graduating. I feel like Madeon could be runner up for executive producer for the next next Act or album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascetic 0 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 well he is but I don't know how to defend him now Next David Guetta tbh :emma: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv u Sum 2,377 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 whos that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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